YES 90125 Guitar tones

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OK, here it is... from the October 2004 "The 50 Greatest Guitar Tones of All Time" issue of Guitar Player magazine:

"The song that signaled the return of Yes in the early '80s features a zillion amazing guitar tones: huge power chords in the intro, chiming clean arpeggios in the breakdown, and freaky acoustic stabs, just to name a few. But the most incredible tone-and the one for which Trevor Rabin will forever be known-is the wild, harmonized solo. Rabin plugged a battered '62 Strat into a 100-watt Marshall miked with a pair of EV RE-20s. He then sent the miked signal to an MXR Pitch Transposer-set to a fifth-to get the unique sound. The solo is mixed loud enough to blow minds 20 years later.

Also check out: "Changes" from 90125 to hear Rabin get a great hollowbody tone on a Gibson Barney Kessel model."


The cool thing in my mind is that he harmonized the miked-up Marshall, rather than running Strat->harmonizer->amp. This is why it sounds like two guitars playing together in really weird (but very tight) harmony. Running the harmonizer through the amp gives you a single, weird guitar. Effects order is as important as what boxes you use.

I believe that Strat had Duncan Hot Stack pickups in it; the original red-cover ones with the thick blade magnet. I had one of those in the only Strat I ever owned, back in about 1984.
 
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Great info Rich S., thanks for digging that out. I need to see if they have that article on their site.

Trevor Rabin's guitar imagination was totally at work on that great tune.
 
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Rich_S said:
OK, here it is... from the October 2004 "The 50 Greatest Guitar Tones of All Time" issue of Guitar Player magazine:

"The song that signaled the return of Yes in the early '80s features a zillion amazing guitar tones: huge power chords in the intro, chiming clean arpeggios in the breakdown, and freaky acoustic stabs, just to name a few. But the most incredible tone-and the one for which Trevor Rabin will forever be known-is the wild, harmonized solo. Rabin plugged a battered '62 Strat into a 100-watt Marshall miked with a pair of EV RE-20s. He then sent the miked signal to an MXR Pitch Transposer-set to a fifth-to get the unique sound. The solo is mixed loud enough to blow minds 20 years later.

Also check out: "Changes" from 90125 to hear Rabin get a great hollowbody tone on a Gibson Barney Kessel model."


The cool thing in my mind is that he harmonized the miked-up Marshall, rather than running Strat->harmonizer->amp. This is why it sounds like two guitars playing together in really weird (but very tight) harmony. Running the harmonizer through the amp gives you a single, weird guitar. Effects order is as important as what boxes you use.

I believe that Strat had Duncan Hot Stack pickups in it; the original red-cover ones with the thick blade magnet. I had one of those in the only Strat I ever owned, back in about 1984.

Well, its not quite just a fifth- in fact, it is several fifths, stacked together. I can get that sound perfectly with a harmonizer (in fact, most of them have a preset called 90125 which is that exact sound). So grab a pitch transposer, set the delay time short, and have about stack up some 5ths, and you have that sound.

I also like the solo sound in 'It Can Happen'...an electric with an octave down, doubled with a compressed acoustic..mmmmmm
 
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So did he mix the output of one mics (with the unprocessed tone) with the output of the second mic sent through the harmonizer?

- Keith
 
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sounds like it, but the balance is pretty even, if anything the harmonizer dominates the mix.
 
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So I was looking through a bunch of cassettes, and I found 90125. I don't think I've listened to this in nearly 20 years, but I still remembered all the songs and remembered a bunch of words to a bunch of the album tracks.

This is a good album.
 
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The Golden Boy said:
So I was looking through a bunch of cassettes, and I found 90125. I don't think I've listened to this in nearly 20 years, but I still remembered all the songs and remembered a bunch of words to a bunch of the album tracks.

This is a good album.

The remastered cd and a good car stereo makes this album sound like gold!!!! Really a great sound to it...

WhoFan
 
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The Golden Boy said:
And I'm listening to a 20+ year old cassette... :rolleyes:

I just meant the sound only gets better on the new Remastered version. I still own and use a few hundred cassettes and another few hundred lp's.... A few friends of mine have these stereo systems that are worth more then some cars and they use all lps... they don't like the cd sound at all... Lp's are warmer.... but they also have expensive tube stereo amps... they sound nice on there own!

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I was just saying it still sounded pretty good on a 20+ year old cassette that's been sitting in my parents' basement for 20 years!

It is a really great sounding record. I think you can trace a lot of overdone production techniques to this record and Asia. This came out in '83? Between this and Pyromania you really had new sounds that got co-opted by a lot of different producers.
 
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The Golden Boy said:
I was just saying it still sounded pretty good on a 20+ year old cassette that's been sitting in my parents' basement for 20 years!

It is a really great sounding record. I think you can trace a lot of overdone production techniques to this record and Asia. This came out in '83? Between this and Pyromania you really had new sounds that got co-opted by a lot of different producers.


Ya for sure this album does have that huge Overdone sound to it.... I can see the Mutt Lang "type" production to it for sure... I just picture the producer sitting there.... again..... again..... lets try it again... again again.... Until it was perfect....... I can't help but think the first Boston lps had a lot to do this type of production on other records...

I've been wanting to learn to play the leads in Cinema for years but i really can't get it that well... I keep trying and start again.. doing it by ear... oneday i hope to play that tune..

WhoFan
 
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Hmm I think that I remember that he used some old analouge harmonizer, used both his strat and the lp to get both worlds, mixed them together as one guitar.
He used alot of old MXR stuff too, lots of that funny old 70's stuff.
And he used one of those very old Bradshaw patchers if I am not mistaken, can remember a picture of the switcher.
It was a interesting article, I am still giving my ex-wife a hard time over the fact that she threw out my old guitar magasines from the 80's.
Had alot of very good articles in those, it is not like today, 99% adds and 1% crap!
 
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I remember reading that the sound he got on that Owner Of A Lonely Heart was said to be the Tevor Rabin sound and he was upset a little that, that sound maybe what he is best known for..

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