YJM Fury - G&L VTB Wiring - Pickup Cover Compatibility

[UrKungFuNoGood]

I'm leaning towards the YJM Fury set but I have some questions:

For Seymour Duncan: Why only white/off-white/black??? I have a parchment pickguard! /rant
So that rant out of the way, are the Furys interchangeable with standard Fender covers?
How dangerous is it to swap covers? If I'm very careful are the odds of damaging a pickup a real concern?

Does the output of the Fury set dictate different values for tone capacitors in a G&L volume/treble/bass wiring mod?
From what I can find the
treble bleed volume mod on a G&L is a 250k pot with 200pF
treble contour is a 500k pot with 22nF
bass contour is a 1000k pot with a 2nF

How much do tone caps interact with pickup output?

If I decide to put off modding the wiring can I just drop this set into my current pickguard? MIM Player Strat 2019 with stock player series pickups.

 

[stevie_bees]

Re: YJM Fury - G&L VTB Wiring - Pickup Cover Compatibility

The Fury is designed to work with stock 250K pots, so I don't think there'll be any issues with them working utilising the PTB wiring. I don't see why you couldn't put Fender pickup covers on them, I don't think they're designed in the same way as normal stack, where you can't take off the cover.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: YJM Fury - G&L VTB Wiring - Pickup Cover Compatibility

When buying covers for your pup just make sure you measure the spacing of the poles correctly. Strat covers can be had with spacing generally from 48mm to 52mm.

 

[Mincer]

Re: YJM Fury - G&L VTB Wiring - Pickup Cover Compatibility

My guess is that the covers are glued on, like all the other stacks (I don't have one in front of me, but thats how all stack pickups are these days). You might be able to order one in the color you want through the Shop Floor Custom program.

 

[stevie_bees]

Re: YJM Fury - G&L VTB Wiring - Pickup Cover Compatibility

My guess is that the covers are glued on, like all the other stacks (I don't have one in front of me, but thats how all stack pickups are these days). You might be able to order one in the color you want through the Shop Floor Custom program.

That's what I thought, but the picture on the website makes it appear that the covers can be removed.

 

[shadowfire90]

Re: YJM Fury - G&L VTB Wiring - Pickup Cover Compatibility

never heard of the G&L VTB wiring. Unless you mean PTB.

You should have no problem with this wiring, I've seen Joe Gore (Tonefiend) on youtube use a G&L wiring on various pickups with much higher output. I look at the Dimarzio HS4 which is the former YJM signature for example as I'm a big Yngwie Malmsteen fan but it's not to me a high output pickup. Than again my idea of high output for passive is a Dimarzio X2N , Seymour Duncan Slug or bare knuckle war pig. Skipping a lot of really technical stuff like magnetic tesla and all it's about 3.3 Henries of inductance. The usual range is 1-10H in most cases for players. To put things into perspective you know what else is around 3 henries.. mexican fender strat pickups and most squier pickups. Nothing wrong with that at all. It's all over the place because it works for a certain tone.

Yngwie gets his output from his amp and pedals. His pedal board is pretty simple compared to some pros I've seen on guitar world doing rig rundowns. Plus of course, no load tone control pots and a noise suppressor pedal he credits more than anything. His strings are really far away from the fretboard was the big shock I think that is why people claim scalloped fretboards are so difficult to play. I had no issues adjusting to it other than sliding notes the first hour or so.

Back to the PTB system

for a great read on the PTB system
http://guitarnuts2.proboards.com/thread/7172/bass-cut-ptb-system

in the PTB system focusing on just the capacitors this is my understanding
so the first capacitor is our typical filter. 10nf to 100nf I go between. Picking the right value is easier than ever on the youtube video
the bass cut - the higher you go in capacitance from 1nf (0.001uf) up towards 2nf,3nf or 4nf it cuts less bass.

I've heard people have gotten good results out of 3 500k pots instead. At least Joe did on certain builds. He has a bunch of videos with this wiring. He's the person who inspired me to really get into wiring and to the point I was cramming vero board active circuits into project guitars based off of high end pedals.

if you find the guitar isn't as bright as you want it and love this wiring I'd suggest adding what everyone seems to call a blower switch. I've got a diagram for it. It skips all the components in the guitar and gives you a very bright and uncompressed tone. Depending on the components in the guitar is how life changing it is. It simulates the two no load pots and can be done on a push pull or mini toggle.

my favorite alternative to a standard tone is the fender greasebucket myself, it's so similar to the usual tone most people don't know the difference unless you point it out in my experience.

I saw this today and it really showcases how much of a difference standard tone controls benefit from smaller or larger valued capacitors. Expect to see this a lot on here from me haha.

 

[UrKungFuNoGood]

Re: YJM Fury - G&L VTB Wiring - Pickup Cover Compatibility

VTB = Volume/Treble/Bass PTB = Passive Treble/Bass. Yeah same thing.
Greasebucket is also a very nice mod. I am tempted to add a blower switch but I think I'll tackle this in stages. I also want to do the expander option to get bridge/neck combo because that's a pretty cool sound too.
I'm not concerned with output levels as that can be compensated for with a drive pedal. I happen to really like the character of the Duncans from all the videos I've watched. Specifically it has that aggressive pick attack that I really love the sound of and it gives the best saturated tone/traditional single coil balance that at the end of the day is what I really want; some extra punch without giving up too much of my strat sound. I may find I miss the clean sound of position 4 on the selector, (Strats sound so good at 4 when clean) but the majority of my playing is driven so it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make until I get another strat and pop in some Surfer Antiquity pups

I think I am going to wind up experimenting with different values after all and may even try that pot suggestion.

I'm mostly a rookie when it comes to electronics (used to build radios and stuff from projects when I was in elementary school 45 years ago lol) so can someone tell me if these are a good start from Mouser.com?
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/598-715P22256JD3
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/598-715P22311NA3
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/594-2222-375-25201
That last one seems to be a heavier duty cap than the others but it was the lowest voltage version of that cap value I could find.
If those will work according to using https://i.imgur.com/ESyFQ6N.jpg as a starting point, I'll pick out some variations to experiment with.

Thanks everyone for your help. :cheers: