Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

[Ascension]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I'd like to see a shredder's pickup from Duncan, which would basically be a hybrid between the JB and the Full Shred.

The Alt 8 does a pretty good job of shreadding. The ultimate Shread pickup is still the Custom 8. It wouldda been nice to have that one back in the "day" when I WAS playing shread. What would this stuff have sounded like with a Prosonic instead of the JCM 900 and a Custom 8 instead of the Carvin M22SD?
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[Marshall_Abuser]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

Good stuff!

I always wanted to try the Alt8, but I've heard/read that it's not that good for leads compared to a JB. Also, I have tried the Suhr Aldrich bridge pickup and hated it. According to some, the Custom 8 and Suhr Aldrich are similar, so I'll stick with JBs and Full Shred for now, until the Dimarzio attack strikes me again and I let myself in for yet another X2N.

The Alt 8 does a pretty good job of shreadding.

 

[orpheo]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

a fullshred/jb hybrid will be a BIT noisy, not really that much.

 

[Heavy]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

Yngwie has horrible rythm tone, simply because he DOES use a lot of gain but through single coils. It just doesn't work for the heavier rythm guitar parts IMO.

He has a great lead tone though. His "Concerto in Eb" album has great lead tone throughout. I don't know why he doesn't use something like the Hot Rails or JB Jr for rythm/bridge position and his new sig pickup for the neck position (where he does his leads).

Are you tone deaf? A hot rails? Terrible, flubby bottom. Those pickups have so much mids, it sounds like you're playing through a megaphone.

Yngwie has a great, lean rhythm tone. Watch the old G3 and listen how great his tone is compared to Vai's and Satch's compressed, humbucker-y tone. Yngwie's tone sounds powerful and clear in comparison. Most of the time humbuckers get fuzzy and muffled sounding.

I don't think for him there's a distinction of rhythm or lead. Like Hendrix, a lot of his rhythms were ambiguous and leads were mixed in as it's improvised. You need clarity for stuff like that.

 

[fretburner]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I saw Yngwie back with G3 and he sure was the LOUDEST mofo of the 3. But I always thought it was because he's got 4 full stack plexis behind him?

 

[Marshall_Abuser]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I sure am tone deaf as well.
IMO Yngwie's tone (rhythm and lead) is as thin as it gets and I hate single coils.

Are you tone deaf? A hot rails? Terrible, flubby bottom. Those pickups have so much mids, it sounds like you're playing through a megaphone.

Yngwie has a great, lean rhythm tone. Watch the old G3 and listen how great his tone is compared to Vai's and Satch's compressed, humbucker-y tone. Yngwie's tone sounds powerful and clear in comparison. Most of the time humbuckers get fuzzy and muffled sounding.

I don't think for him there's a distinction of rhythm or lead. Like Hendrix, a lot of his rhythms were ambiguous and leads were mixed in as it's improvised. You need clarity for stuff like that.

 

[TheStoryteller]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I always thought STK-S1 would be great pickups for Yngwie. When I saw the new ones were called STK-S10 I started to think... maybe they are the same, or similar?

 

[Petrovsk Mizinski]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I thought his rhythm tone in "Facing the Animal" was at least decent, if not good and pretty heavy.

I doubt yngwie's songs would sound good if humbuckers were used on rhythm tracks. I love the his not-so-tight rhythm tone which is kind of trademark for him as is the shredding tone too

By the standards of modern metal/rock audio engineering, Malmsteen's rhythm tone is pretty much the definition of terrible to be honest.

 

[marvelous_seven]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I really love Yngwie's sound especially from "Attack!!" album..
But,I kinda stray away from his rhythm tone though. Feels flabby and lacks punch to my ear. I guess it has to do with string gauge he use. IIRC he uses 0.008-0.038 string gauges tune to Eb (see?).
IIRC too he ever said why he uses loose string gauge in one of his interview,because he didn't get what he wants in heavier gauge string.
Contrary to what SRV did, you know..
Maybe it just me,but I really prefer heavier gauge string on bass side and thinner gauge on treble side. The best of both world IME!
Welcome to Seymour Duncan,Yngwie!

 

[fretburner]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

By the standards of modern metal/rock audio engineering, Malmsteen's rhythm tone is pretty much the definition of terrible to be honest.

That is, of course, your humble opinion.

I for example, never was into EVH's or SRV's tone, even though SRV is my favorite bluesman. I love Yngwie's rhythm tone in "Facing the Animal" and more so, his live rhythm tone.

 

[Lonkero]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I really love Yngwie's sound especially from "Attack!!" album..
But,I kinda stray away from his rhythm tone though. Feels flabby and lacks punch to my ear. I guess it has to do with string gauge he use. IIRC he uses 0.008-0.038 string gauges tune to Eb (see?).
IIRC too he ever said why he uses loose string gauge in one of his interview,because he didn't get what he wants in heavier gauge string.
Contrary to what SRV did, you know..
Maybe it just me,but I really prefer heavier gauge string on bass side and thinner gauge on treble side. The best of both world IME!
Welcome to Seymour Duncan,Yngwie!

No he uses custom gauge strings 008 - 048 (or 046 on some guitars). Light on top, heavy on bottom. I know cause I use the same strings (dean markley YJM ball end 008 - 011 - 014 - 022w -032 - 046)

 

[Butch Snyder]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

Well, if SD is going to grab all the DiMarzio endorsees, they need to start with the artist with the very first signature pickup - Steve Morse.

I love Steve's playing and tone but his pickups DO NOT work for me and my own rig. I love the EBMM Morse guitar models; but the pickups? No stanks....

I might try a YJM Fury model in the slanted single coil position of my Morse.

 

[arellanon]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

By the standards of modern metal/rock audio engineering, Malmsteen's rhythm tone is pretty much the definition of terrible to be honest.

Tone is subjective; I love Yngwie's tone, rhythm or lead. Yet you dislike it. No one is right or wrong.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

Well, if SD is going to grab all the DiMarzio endorsees, they need to start with the artist with the very first signature pickup - Steve Morse.

I love Steve's playing and tone but his pickups DO NOT work for me and my own rig. I love the EBMM Morse guitar models; but the pickups? No stanks....

I might try a YJM Fury model in the slanted single coil position of my Morse.

I tried these too, and as a huge Morse fan, I have no idea how he gets that sound out of such bad sounding pickups.

 

[Gamera]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I've always been a fan of Yngwie's tone and I thought the HS-3 was actually a pretty decent pickup. I have one myself and I've been very happy with it. I wonder if his new Duncans are an attempt to replicate that or are they really different in any way?

 

[marvelous_seven]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

No he uses custom gauge strings 008 - 048 (or 046 on some guitars). Light on top, heavy on bottom. I know cause I use the same strings (dean markley YJM ball end 008 - 011 - 014 - 022w -032 - 046)

Thanks for correcting me..
It seems I forgot. LOL

 

[SMark]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I doubt yngwie's songs would sound good if humbuckers were used on rhythm tracks. I love the his not-so-tight rhythm tone which is kind of trademark for him as is the shredding tone too

Yngwie is actually on record saying that he has a Gold Top Les Paul that he often (whatever that means) uses for rhythm tracks. Of course, we'll never see him use it live.

As significant as his pickups are to getting his tone, just as significant is his DOD 250 pedal. If this new SD pickup is a higher gain pickup than the HS-3/YJM was, that may lessen the role of his pedal.

To be honest, I haven't really been all that crazy about his tone since the Facing The Animal album, which I thought was well done. So if this new pickup can get him back to something smoother, I will enjoy hearing that.

 

[MetalForBreakfast]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

Forgive my ignorance, but when you guys talk about the custom 8, are you talking about the Crazy 8 pickup from the custom shop, or are you modifying a duncan custom with an alnico 8 magnet? And if it's the latter...how do you go about doing that?


As far as Yngwie goes, I always thought his rhythm sound was a little....flubby? Lead tone though...come on. It's the shiz.

 

[Grandturk]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I didn't realize Yngwie played rhythm.

FWIW - I like the tone of the Dimarzio YJM but I wish it had more output, since it doesn't mix well with a humbucker in the bridge. Hopefully Duncan bumps this up a bit.

 

[Butch Snyder]

Re: Yngwie Malmsteen comes to Seymour Duncan

I didn't realize Yngwie played rhythm.