ericmeyer4
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At what spot on the dial do you consider the mids to be scooped?
Your Deffinition of Scooped
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Gearjoneser
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Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
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5-6 for a natural sound
7-10 to cut through with lots of mids.
By nature 6L6 amps are more scooped than EL-34 amps, so the mids will be at a different number on those 2.
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5-6 for a natural sound
7-10 to cut through with lots of mids.
By nature 6L6 amps are more scooped than EL-34 amps, so the mids will be at a different number on those 2.
D-EJ915
Stretchologist
Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
I've got mine set at about 8 on treble, 4.5 on mids and 5.5 on bass and I don't really think that's scooped, it's more tight-as-crap than 'scooped' sounding.
If you've got both the treble and bass dimed, then it's scooped but having it around 6-7 with mids at 4-5 I don't see that as really 'scooped'
I've got mine set at about 8 on treble, 4.5 on mids and 5.5 on bass and I don't really think that's scooped, it's more tight-as-crap than 'scooped' sounding.
If you've got both the treble and bass dimed, then it's scooped but having it around 6-7 with mids at 4-5 I don't see that as really 'scooped'
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
One little trick I learned somewhere is to pick notes and chords with your right hand, and use your left hand to find the best midrange point.....but do it with your eyes closed, and without thinking about the number, just do it by ear.
One little trick I learned somewhere is to pick notes and chords with your right hand, and use your left hand to find the best midrange point.....but do it with your eyes closed, and without thinking about the number, just do it by ear.
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Jeff Dunne
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Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
You guys are off your rockers if you think you can judge midrange by a number on a knob - the amps voicing has infinitely more influence than a knob labeled mids.
I'm biased - I like a somewhat scooped sound, but it depends on where it's scooped.
You guys are off your rockers if you think you can judge midrange by a number on a knob - the amps voicing has infinitely more influence than a knob labeled mids.
I'm biased - I like a somewhat scooped sound, but it depends on where it's scooped.
BigAlTheBird
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Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
With my amp, I enjoy Treble around 5-6, mids between 7-10, and bass around 1-3. I like my mids a lot.
With my amp, I enjoy Treble around 5-6, mids between 7-10, and bass around 1-3. I like my mids a lot.
Pecan
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Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
Anything that doesn't pierce your head:laugh2: Just kidding
It is actually impossible to discuss this, due to
- Direction amp faces
- Model of amp
- Guitar specs
- Volume
And thats just a few. I find you need to turn down high mids and highs when playing loud. For me I just pluck a few notes and spend 1 minute tweaking everytime before I start.
I run my amp at low volumes around 5 highs, 8 mids, 7 bass
Anything that doesn't pierce your head:laugh2: Just kidding
It is actually impossible to discuss this, due to
- Direction amp faces
- Model of amp
- Guitar specs
- Volume
And thats just a few. I find you need to turn down high mids and highs when playing loud. For me I just pluck a few notes and spend 1 minute tweaking everytime before I start.
I run my amp at low volumes around 5 highs, 8 mids, 7 bass
ShredFetus
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Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
Where you turn yourself up to 10 & still can't hear yourself in a band mix
Where you turn yourself up to 10 & still can't hear yourself in a band mix
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
That´s about where I´d generall put it as well, though it depends on the amp like Jonesy hinted at, so to speak it´s "harder" to scoop a Marshall than it is a Fender or Mesa... your ears should decide, and not the numbers on a dial.
Generally speaking, I don´t like it scooped, but depending on the situation it may be needed...
Gearjoneser said:
That´s about where I´d generall put it as well, though it depends on the amp like Jonesy hinted at, so to speak it´s "harder" to scoop a Marshall than it is a Fender or Mesa... your ears should decide, and not the numbers on a dial.
Generally speaking, I don´t like it scooped, but depending on the situation it may be needed...
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SeraphimTN
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Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
Under 5 I've say sounds scooped on MOST amps, some no. I HATE scooped sounds on an amp live but post production scooping isn't bad when a little is done.
Under 5 I've say sounds scooped on MOST amps, some no. I HATE scooped sounds on an amp live but post production scooping isn't bad when a little is done.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
Pantera is my best example of scooped mids, vs. something like Iron Maiden or Slayer, which is not.
+1. The actual frequencies that the mid knob is affecting make the biggest difference. Also, whether the eq is pre or post gain, what type of speakers/cabinet, what brand of amp, whether you're standing in front of it or beside it, etc....Jeff Dunne said:
Pantera is my best example of scooped mids, vs. something like Iron Maiden or Slayer, which is not.
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Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
My amp doesn't sound scooped unless I put the mids to almost off, and then it still has more mids than a mesa at 5.
So yea, when I'm playing quiet I keep the mids really high, at high volumes I cut them back a little bit or the amp gets ice pickey.
It's impossible to scoop my rig unless I use a pedal lol.
My amp doesn't sound scooped unless I put the mids to almost off, and then it still has more mids than a mesa at 5.
So yea, when I'm playing quiet I keep the mids really high, at high volumes I cut them back a little bit or the amp gets ice pickey.
It's impossible to scoop my rig unless I use a pedal lol.
Lake Placid Blues
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Re: Your Deffinition of Scooped
It will be totally different with different speakers. For example, a Marshall through G12T75's, and the mids set to about 5-6, sounds about as scooped as the same amp with the mids set to 1 or 2, and playing through Vintage 30's or G12H's.
It will be totally different with different speakers. For example, a Marshall through G12T75's, and the mids set to about 5-6, sounds about as scooped as the same amp with the mids set to 1 or 2, and playing through Vintage 30's or G12H's.
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