Zhangbucker Review

UberMetalDood

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Just got my set of Zhangbuckers today (mucho thanks to David). I spent about an hour going back and forth between 4 strats through a Bogner Ecstasy 20th Anniversary head. The four strats I compared had:

Norton/PAF Joe
Air Norton/Injector
PATB-1/Jazz
Zhangbuckers *

My Zhangbucker models are the Slugbucker bridge and Pagey neck. I had them specifically crafted with a few of my own specifications, but am not going to share the ingredients of my unique sound. Let's just say that what turned out is really, really good.

I'll start with the neck pickup because it's what surprised me the most and just happened to be the first one I tried. It was more powerful than I thought it would be, with a deep (not woofy or boomy like say a Duncan 59) low end, clear and balanced mids, and articulate highs.

I expected the bridge pickup to be more along the lines of perhaps an EVH Wolfgang or something, and it is in a way but airier. To me, the bridge is kind of the same difference between a Marshall JVM (EVH pickup) and Friedman Brown Eye (Zhangbucker). The bridge pickup is kind of like a brown-sound type pickup that is slightly constrained by warmth and refinement. It has a lot of midrange overall, but very clear and articulate. It's slightly lower output than I expected, but still within the medium to medium-high output range.

There are five aspects of these pickups which are as perfect as pickups can get: feel, sustain, dynamics, and cut.

It feels like a cross between a real vintage PAF and a Dimarzio Air Norton - very natural.

It sustains beautifully and leaves nothing to be desired. It feels like you can bend up and hold a vibrato for a whole minute with one strike of the pick. The dynamics are absolutely perfect. It's not the kind of dynamics that can be frustrating. It's exactly the kind of dynamics you want when you play even a lot but gets quieter or louder if you want it to. One of my frustrations with the PATB-1, though I love it's sound, is the dynamics. The dynamics are very similar to my Norton.

David described it as a "vintage high end," which meant 'present but airy' in my mind. That's almost precisely what I got. There is no harshness of any form, in fact, if it's kind of a bright pickup then the high end is as smooth as a bright pickup can be.

They are pickups that might otherwise be aggressive, but are tamed by influence rather than authority. I tried my best to describe in detail and provided examples of my own unique style of playing, and he couldn't have done a better job matching the pickups to my style.

One other thing of note is that there are many pickups that sound great, but not all of them have something more around the edges. It's called dimension. I remember playing a set of Lollar Imperials (as I was told they were) and they were some of the most 3D sounding pickups I ever played. By 3D, I do not mean hi-fi in any way. Also, there are couple of Dimarzios which have a 3D quality but sounds kind of artificial or processed (PAF 36th comes to mind). Then there are pickups like the Dimarzio Norton or Duncan Seth Lover which have 3D'ness. Finally, there are really amazing pickups like the Lollars that have a real 3D depth kind of the way a Matchless amplifier blooms. I would say that the Zhangbuckers fall in between the Lollars and Dimarzio/Duncan category in terms of 3D'ness.

The truth is that I wasn't sure if this Zhangbucker guy was some ordinary pickup tinkerer making stuff in his garage, or if he was a real talent. All I could go on was what I read about him. Now that I received my first set of pickups from him, he seems to be a man of real talent. He's concise with his words and marginally descriptive, so you don't expect him to pickup the nuance you try to achieve. However, he seems to have an ear for pickups and the ability to make them sound like you want them to sound - almost as if he knows better than you do.

I think there is a little bit of work to be done, but I'm entirely satisfied. This Zhangbucker guy seems legit and he has done a great service for me, and for this, I am grateful. However, I will not recommend him because I don't want all of you placing orders and tying him up so that it ends up taking a long time to get some pickups made :smokin:

In comparison to my Dimarzios and Duncans, the Zhangbuckers are up there. I'm not going to get rid of my Dimarzios or Duncans now that I've had a taste of the Zhangs. In fact, knowing how good these Zhangs are and still being completely satisfied when I plug in with my Dimarzios and Duncans only reinforce my love for them.
 
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I've had excellent results with David at Zhangbucker. My two main guitars for studio AND live have his pickups and I don't think that's a coincidence.
 
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Congrats on them. David makes excellent pickups. He's a true artisan.

The Super Paul Bunyan in the bridge of my AVRI Hot Rod Tele continues to surprise and delight me.
 
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I hear "3D" and "bloom" a lot in reference to high end PAF recreations. Is there a more technical description for what those adjectives refer to?
 
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I hear "3D" and "bloom" a lot in reference to high end PAF recreations. Is there a more technical description for what those adjectives refer to?

My worthless 2 cents...

"Choral" separation between frequencies (IOW, between notes and strings) and choral decay of harmonics are IMO/IME what 3D and bloom refer to.

If you record an ostinato single note then if you pass the track through a frequency analyzer, you'll see that high quality pickups tend to have several effects:
-an increased number of harmonics after the fundamental;
-bigger dips between these harmonic peaks, giving this feeling of choral separation that I mention above: "3D";
-uneven sustain of the various peaks and "remanence" of some of them. "Bloom".

Good boutique pickups like Zhangbuckers share these qualities with good vintage PU's, IME.

Hand winding appears to favor them, by lowering stray capacitance / capacitive coupling effect. Machine winding doesn't necessarily increase these downsides but apparently makes them more difficult to avoid.
 
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Thanks, that makes sense. What about the PAF "double tone"? What might that be? I have some Seths in a Sheraton, so I might have even heard it, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be listening for.
 
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Thanks, that makes sense. What about the PAF "double tone"? What might that be? I have some Seths in a Sheraton, so I might have even heard it, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be listening for.

The first notes of this clip exhibit double tones, AFAIK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIC1vvP2IpE

It sounds a bit like an octaver... the fundamental is doubled by harmonics having almost the same strenght. It has apparently to do with a strong resonant peak interacting with the tendency of distorted tube amps to produce "ghost notes".

I have a couple of possible explanations about it but it's just non verified theory and I've posted enough BS- "lol". :-))
 
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Yeah that's a confusing thing about "double tones" is that it seems like it's an effect of a loud amp more than of the pickup, yet it's only associated with a subset of pickups. Sounds like it might be a certain flavor of feedback.
 
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My worthless 2 cents...

"Choral" separation between frequencies (IOW, between notes and strings) and choral decay of harmonics are IMO/IME what 3D and bloom refer to.

If you record an ostinato single note then if you pass the track through a frequency analyzer, you'll see that high quality pickups tend to have several effects:
-an increased number of harmonics after the fundamental;
-bigger dips between these harmonic peaks, giving this feeling of choral separation that I mention above: "3D";
-uneven sustain of the various peaks and "remanence" of some of them. "Bloom".

Good boutique pickups like Zhangbuckers share these qualities with good vintage PU's, IME.

Hand winding appears to favor them, by lowering stray capacitance / capacitive coupling effect. Machine winding doesn't necessarily increase these downsides but apparently makes them more difficult to avoid.

That sounds like a good definition and along the lines of how I perceive it.
 
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I ordered a set of pickups from David for an HSS strat I am building.

Even so, I am totally satisfied with almost every SD pickup I have owned, feel a certain loyalty to the brand, and am proud to display their logo on my covered pickups. I have probably 8 - 10 that I have purchased that I haven't even tried yet. The only one I tried that I couln't bond with was the Twangbanger and that is just a matter of taste. I won't sell it because I know my tastes are prone to shift.

I ordered the Zhangs because I wanted to do something I haven't done before and have another build in mind that will utilize a TV Jones set.
 
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I ordered a set of pickups from David for an HSS strat I am building.

Even so, I am totally satisfied with almost every SD pickup I have owned, feel a certain loyalty to the brand, and am proud to display their logo on my covered pickups. I have probably 8 - 10 that I have purchased that I haven't even tried yet. The only one I tried that I couln't bond with was the Twangbanger and that is just a matter of taste. I won't sell it because I know my tastes are prone to shift.

I ordered the Zhangs because I wanted to do something I haven't done before and have another build in mind that will utilize a TV Jones set.

Same here. I wanted something different and unique to my style. I have found what I'm looking for with just a minor little tweak (A5 in the bridge instead of UOA5). HOWEVER >>>>> I just received my P-Rails this morning and I'm blown away with the results (review coming soon). I only spent 30 min with them this morning, so I need a few more hours on them, but they are shaping up to be possibly my favorite Duncan pickups...
 
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