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I need a delay that will sound good in front of a dirty jcm800. I don't want too modify it with an fx loop. I slam it with an od most of the time so the delay will kinda be sandwiched between dirt haha. I like tap tempo, and i like warmer delays. I'm not opposed to digital or modeling. We play out and people will not know the difference i don't think, and a lot of analog delays don't have the longer times right?
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Re: Delay that sounds good in front of a marshall?
you could consider a cheap dry/wet setup with the EH 22caliber or 44 Magnun as poweramp...
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seymour duncan deja vu delay. long delay times. tap tempo. true baypass. ratio switch. choice of pure digital, or run the delays thru a bucket chip and get a a warm analog delay- or blend the 2 together, also analog modulation on the analog side. Its perfect for a gigging musician. easy to use on the fly.
its also got some other function like running inserts etc.
warm. yes. long delays yes. its all there man!"Technique is really the elimination of the unneccessary ... it is a constant effort to avoid any personal impediment or obstacle to acheive the smooth flow of energy and intent"
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I bet the Memory Lane Jr would sound great out front.Comment
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I really liked the Vox Time Machine in front of my Marshall. If I get another delay, that's most likely what it will be.Comment
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I use the Deja Vu. It sits after my Blackstar HT Dual pedal, and into the front of my JTM-45. I know the level of dirt from the JTM-45 isn't quite the same as a JCM 800, but it does the job for me!
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Delay sounds ****ty in front of an amp. No two ways around it. I'd consider getting a seperate wet/dry rig, as suggested above.Last edited by Agileguy_101; 08-31-2011, 03:55 PM.Custom neck-thru strat
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Boss would workOriginally posted by grumptruckOriginally posted by Gear UsedComment
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I would try a DD3. A time tested delay. Not fancy but it does the job. I have 3 of them on different boards"So you will never have to listen to Surf music again" James Marshall Hendrix
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Yeah, I gotta +1 this. Distorted echoes sound really nasty, unless you're going for a nasty, grungey, muddy wall of noise type thing. And even then, you're walking a tightrope above harsh white-noisiness.Originally posted by Agileguy_101 View Post
The wet/dry rig could work. Alternatively, if you don't use the delay that much, then invest in a dirt pedal you like to put in front of the delay, just for those echo-y passages.I remember calloused hands and paint-stained jeans, and I remember safe-as-houses self-belief.Comment
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I run a pair of Boss DD-3s in front of my Marshall 18 Watter clone. 25 years ago, I did the same thing with my JCM800. I run a moderate amount of crunch on the amp, and kick in overdrive or distortion pedals as needed. The delays sit in between the dirt boxes and the amp. Obviously, if you want tap tempo, you'll want something bigger and badder, but tonally, the DD-3s work fine for me.
I disagree with the "distorted echos sound nasty" crowd. Running through a crunchy Marshall, the delays actually clean up progressively as they trail off, since they're driving the amp less. I don't find anything wrong with that, except that you have to set the mix knob differently than if it was a clean amp. Since the amp is adding some compression (squashing the dry signal in proportion to the quieter repeats), I find you need to run the mix a bit more toward "dry" to compensate. But overall, there's nothing wrong with running a delay in front of a JCM800. (My answer might be different if we were talking about a Mesa Rectifier, but it's moot point, since those have effects loops).
There were a lot of great sounds made with Echoplexes, et al, in front of Marshalls, back in the olden days before effects loops were invented.Last edited by Rich_S; 08-31-2011, 02:51 PM.Tra-la-laa, lala-la-laa!
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^^^ That's a good point. I guess it really depends on how much gain we're talking about, really.I remember calloused hands and paint-stained jeans, and I remember safe-as-houses self-belief.Comment
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/\ Werd, us old schoolers used to do this all the time. JCM800s are dirty, but not Recto mushy. If you don't get carried away with the delay, pretty much any of them will work fine, the Boss DD-3s worked great.Comment
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