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Would you rather have a Mark V or three $1000 guitars.
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"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain
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Yeah, the manual for my Blue Angel say to experiment with impedance mismatches, too.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Amp and cabs are just a bigger part of the instrument ….. Some brands are more than they are worth when it comes to amps, but in the end of the day if whatever the brand delivers FOR YOU - that’s what matters. Guitar is your brush - with pickups being the fuffy tip, amp is your choice of water-color/oil/acrylic/pencil and canvas threading, pedals and speakers are your pallet. Availability of speakers, amps, pedals will give you way more of an overall “pallet” than 4-6 guitars.Active Duty Rig:
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Originally posted by Top-L View PostIve never owned a high end amp and the Boogie sounds amazing. I was planning to use it as reward for accomplishing some personal goals by the end of year, but a new guitar every four months would be more satisfying. I love getting new guitars.
Three guitars, or the boogie?
(or neither)
It's gear, so as jeremy said, just watch the resell value. There's no way to predict how you are actually getting along with thingie.
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Originally posted by uOpt View Post
I think it is important to follow through with your self-reward schemes. Otherwise that motivational trick would not work again.
It's gear, so as jeremy said, just watch the resell value. There's no way to predict how you are actually getting along with thingie.
I will just have to achieve my goals faster.
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Originally posted by JMP/HBE View Post
Mesa-ly not Marshall.
(Approximately $71 per knob - but you get Uber Marshall and Mesa out of it!)
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He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...
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Originally posted by Top-L View PostIve never owned a high end amp and the Boogie sounds amazing. I was planning to use it as reward for accomplishing some personal goals by the end of year, but a new guitar every four months would be more satisfying. I love getting new guitars.
Three guitars, or the boogie?
(or neither)Charvel Model-5fx EMG 85/SA
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Originally posted by Top-L View PostIve never owned a high end amp and the Boogie sounds amazing. I was planning to use it as reward for accomplishing some personal goals by the end of year, but a new guitar every four months would be more satisfying. I love getting new guitars.
Three guitars, or the boogie?
(or neither)
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Originally posted by Rex_Rocker View PostFluff's demo also sounds pretty bad. No edge or oomph at all. Like all mids and no agression. But it looks like he did use a 1x12 there, so...
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Originally posted by chadd View PostDid he do his usual high pass, low pass and boost? That tends to make everything sound like a wall of mids. His Mesa Badlander video is easily one of the worst I've ever seen. I have a hard time taking him seriously, but I've only seen a couple of his videos.
I'm not saying that's what he did, but TBH, I've never liked his tones. They always sound so clanky, stuffy in the mids, and with no balls to the low-end. I get it, it's a full mix. You don't need thunderous lows on guitars. But there's a point where you can have them and still be tasteful. Ola gets away with a much chunkier tone. I'm not 100% in love with the tones Ola gets all the time, but at least they're heavy. Fluff's are not. But then again, Ola's stuff always sounds heavier than Fluff's.Last edited by Rex_Rocker; 03-21-2023, 08:57 AM.
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Originally posted by Rex_Rocker View PostNo idea. But the hi/lopass stuff is pretty common. I don't know what particular frequencies he does it at, TBH. But I've seen sompe people do the hipass thing at up to 150-200 Hz. That IMO just neuters all the balls of the tone and moves the emphasis of the low-end to the muddy/stuffy region.
Seriously though.... about the Mark series. Are there any identifyable Mark tones besides Metallica and Petrucci? Any bands I would know with a signature tone that is the Mark?
My impression is that the Mark V/VII has an amazing MOP metal distortion (for standardish tuning), it has amazing lead guitar tone, and it can cover every genre. The only thing it can't do sound like a Marshall.
The Dual Recto and the many flavors of Marshall represent the vast majority of popular guitar music. The Mark is like a hyper-thick lead guitar amp that has a bit of the cocked wah sound at all times.
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Originally posted by Top-L View PostI think you meant to say it leaves space for the bass guitar...
Remember a Low E's fundamental is roughly 80Hz. A C (that I tune to) is around 60. I hipass at 60. I believe Andy Sneap and Colin Richardson do it at that frequency most of the time too. I don't want to cut all the balls off the palm-mutes or make my 4x12 sound like a smaller cab. I personally feel there's a lot more of a problem zone just higher up around 200-500 Hz where the low-end is just muddy, thuddy, and stuffy. At least for the aesthetics of the tone I go for. Exactly why I prefer a Recto to a 5150 most of the time.
Bass and Kick can live just below. There's still room below. Especially if you consider my guitar's lowest note is at 60Hz, then that means the Bass' is at 30. Which is ridiculously low, but oh, well. It's a tight fit, but it's worked for me. And if you really need to, you can resort to multiband compression on guitars or side-chain compression on the kick and bass. MBC is a must in bass anyway. Very common on guitars too.
Seriously, the low-end usually needs a lot of tayloring in a modern-ish metal mix. You can take the easy way out and dump all the lows from the guitars, but I personally don't like how that ends up sounding.
It's all relative too. You can of course afford a lot more low-end in a mid tempo song rather than blast beats/heavy palm-mutes at 220 bpm. And it depends of the aesthetic you're going for as well. Because Fluff certainly doens't agree with me, but neither his tones or his music sound heavy to me.
Then again, don't misunderstand me. I'm the kind of dude that is afraid to push a Recto's bass knob past 12 o'clock ever. Even with EMG's and a boost.
And that's speaking from my perspective. I go for a certain tone you or Fluff might not.
Originally posted by Top-L View PostSeriously though.... about the Mark series. Are there any identifyable Mark tones besides Metallica and Petrucci? Any bands I would know with a signature tone that is the Mark?
Santana?
A few hair metalers used them as well. Motley Crue, I think? Guns n Roses?
Kurt Cobain?
Not a fan of all of those tones, but I believe there was some Mark involved.Last edited by Rex_Rocker; 03-22-2023, 02:32 PM.
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