I just ordered a UA Dream '65 pedal, which sounds pretty amazing. I'm all for this sort of thing.
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Guitar players are a superstitious bunch at best, and outrightly deluded and illogical at their worst.
How many recordings have you heard where the band was using a POD, or a Kemper, or whatever in between already, and you didn't know it?
How many show have you been to where the band was using a POD, or a Kemper, or whatever er in between already, and you didn't know it?
I guarantee it is more than you know.
At the end of the day - music companies drive much of the hype and superstition. They want you to buy "that" gear. That "expensive" high margin gear.
You don't see them doing the scientific studies because the result would be "Oh - they sound the same, I'll get the cheaper one" or "In this blind listening test, I actually preferred digital" because it hurts revenue. What is possible to tell the difference in, is very different from what you do tell the difference.
I did a very simple test here to show that people couldn't tell a PG from an A2P from a T-Top. results turned in were basically chance.
If you believe differently, you are a fool. And that's ok. Because music is fun!Originally posted by Bad City
He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...
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Originally posted by Aceman View PostGuitar players are a superstitious bunch at best, and outrightly deluded and illogical at their worst.
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Originally posted by Securb View Post
What are you looking to get out of it that you are not getting with your Deluxe?Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Aceman View PostGuitar players are a superstitious bunch at best, and outrightly deluded and illogical at their worst.
How many recordings have you heard where the band was using a POD, or a Kemper, or whatever in between already, and you didn't know it?
How many show have you been to where the band was using a POD, or a Kemper, or whatever er in between already, and you didn't know it?
I guarantee it is more than you know.
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Originally posted by Aceman View PostGuitar players are a superstitious bunch at best, and outrightly deluded and illogical at their worst.
How many recordings have you heard where the band was using a POD, or a Kemper, or whatever in between already, and you didn't know it?
How many show have you been to where the band was using a POD, or a Kemper, or whatever er in between already, and you didn't know it?
I guarantee it is more than you know.
At the end of the day - music companies drive much of the hype and superstition. They want you to buy "that" gear. That "expensive" high margin gear.
You don't see them doing the scientific studies because the result would be "Oh - they sound the same, I'll get the cheaper one" or "In this blind listening test, I actually preferred digital" because it hurts revenue. What is possible to tell the difference in, is very different from what you do tell the difference.
I did a very simple test here to show that people couldn't tell a PG from an A2P from a T-Top. results turned in were basically chance.
If you believe differently, you are a fool. And that's ok. Because music is fun!
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Originally posted by Aceman View PostGuitar players are a superstitious bunch at best, and outrightly deluded and illogical at their worst.
How many recordings have you heard where the band was using a POD, or a Kemper, or whatever in between already, and you didn't know it?
How many show have you been to where the band was using a POD, or a Kemper, or whatever er in between already, and you didn't know it?
I guarantee it is more than you know.
At the end of the day - music companies drive much of the hype and superstition. They want you to buy "that" gear. That "expensive" high margin gear.
You don't see them doing the scientific studies because the result would be "Oh - they sound the same, I'll get the cheaper one" or "In this blind listening test, I actually preferred digital" because it hurts revenue. What is possible to tell the difference in, is very different from what you do tell the difference.
I did a very simple test here to show that people couldn't tell a PG from an A2P from a T-Top. results turned in were basically chance.
If you believe differently, you are a fool. And that's ok. Because music is fun!
This is a unit that came out in the 2010s (besides, the amp loop means I can integrate it into a real tube amp or run it with whatever hot new pedal format preamp comes out if it blows me away) and the audience really doesn’t care so long as they cam hear you and it doesn’t sound unpleasant. It’s worth it for that model alone and the fx which are absolutely fantastic. Running studio tracks through the 16 voice multi-chorus tastefully has to be heard to be believed.
We brought our own sound guy who knows how we’re meant to sound which helps but I think it goes to show that the “digital doesn’t cut through” argument is more user error. I’ve seen bands with full tube halfstacks get buried because they don’t know how to dial it in for the stage. The most common issue is overestimating how much low end they need.Last edited by El Dunco; 04-04-2024, 04:05 AM.The opinions expressed above do not necessarily represent those of the poster and are to be considered suspect at best.
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As always, good sound is good sound.
The technology behind it doesn't matter, the brand doesn't matter, the age doesn't matter, who else used it doesn't matter, the color doesn't matter.
When people get over all of that, they will start sounding better.
Originally posted by Bad City
He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...
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Originally posted by Aceman View PostAs always, good sound is good sound.
The technology behind it doesn't matter, the brand doesn't matter, the age doesn't matter, who else used it doesn't matter, the color doesn't matter.
When people get over all of that, they will start sounding better.The opinions expressed above do not necessarily represent those of the poster and are to be considered suspect at best.
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what and how, for sure. why? dunno. intention is important but if you have great chops, good ears (and use em), know and play your role on stage, and are just in it for the money/adoration/whatever i dont know if the audience will notice as long as you do all the things you should.
as far as gear... regardless of what it is, for me at least, its about me getting what i want so i can make music with as little distraction as possible. if your instrument plays, sounds, and feels great, i believe you will give a better performance than if something isnt quite right. however you get to that point doesnt really matter. guitarists do tend to be hesitant to new things for a variety of reasons, but its all about finding what works for you. listen to what people say and the advice they give, but at the end of the day ya gotta find what suits you best
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I think a Fender Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb is a very good idea for small clubs gigging musicians, for at home low-volume and for recording out of a single unit.
I would definitely like a similar concept (different amp style) but with a closed back cab. Or an higher quality Katana with only reverb, and closed back cab.
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Originally posted by jeremy View Postwhat and how, for sure. why? dunno. intention is important but if you have great chops, good ears (and use em), know and play your role on stage, and are just in it for the money/adoration/whatever i dont know if the audience will notice as long as you do all the things you should.
as far as gear... regardless of what it is, for me at least, its about me getting what i want so i can make music with as little distraction as possible. if your instrument plays, sounds, and feels great, i believe you will give a better performance than if something isnt quite right. however you get to that point doesnt really matter. guitarists do tend to be hesitant to new things for a variety of reasons, but its all about finding what works for you. listen to what people say and the advice they give, but at the end of the day ya gotta find what suits you bestThe opinions expressed above do not necessarily represent those of the poster and are to be considered suspect at best.
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My H&K Tubemeister is 20 watt tube amp
it will attenuate down to 5 and 1 watt
5 watt is way way too loud for the house
1 watt is almost too loud , certainly too loud for after 9 pm
I love a good modeling amp
Some of the presets are so processed it's hard to get the individual sound I want
The sounds are good but kinda generic
If I was 12 years old
And wanted to learn guitar
I would love that
But that gets you nowhere near able to set up and amp
It's no wonder people cant set up their ampsEHD
Just here surfing Guitar Pron
RG2EX1 w/ SD hot-rodded pickups / RG4EXFM1 w/ Carvin S22j/b + FVN middle
SR500 / Martin 000CE-1/Epiphone Hummingbird
Epiphone Florentine with OEM Probuckers
Ehdwuld branded Blue semi hollow custom with JB/Jazz
Reptile Green Gibson Custom Studio / Aqua Dean Shire semi hollow with piezo
Carvin Belair / Laney GC80A Acoustic Amp (a gift from Guitar Player Mag)
GNX3000 (yea I'm a modeler)
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Originally posted by ehdwuld View PostIt's no wonder people cant set up their amps
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