I think I found my cab...

[Aceman]

If they are 16ohm greens wired series/parallel mono then you are in business. Stiletto Duece has the 16ohm out so it would match perfect.
Tonewise I still say you need to find a mesa stilerro/traditional,,,,,,but I can see wanting that big Marshall cab/logo for an 80's party-metal band.

Or just because I like the sound. Either way.

[Rex_Rocker]

I prefer the tone of 16 ohm cabs and speakers, personally.

The speakers are brighter, and it uses more windings on the amp's transformers, so I always felt like it squeezes just a touch more out of the amp.

JMO.

[Aceman]

I prefer the tone of 16 ohm cabs and speakers, personally.

The speakers are brighter, and it uses more windings on the amp's transformers, so I always felt like it squeezes just a touch more out of the amp.

JMO.

I don't know what the impact is. I do know the amp needs to see more resistance on the end than is coming out. So, no blowing things up!

But what happens sonically when you go 4>8, or 8>16, or even 4>16...no idea.

[Rex_Rocker]

Oh, no idea either. I know Mesa encourages to try impedance mismatches, but I wouldn't be comfortable with that.

I've never had any of my amps blow up by accidentally mismatching the impedance, but I also felt the amps didn't sound as good they could when actually matching the impedance.

Then again, none of my amps have been Mesa.

[dave74]

As long as the mismatch has the cab at higher ohms than the amp's output it just results in the amp running cooler.
Cooler means darker with more sag, so no harm at all but most will prefer the punch of a correct match,

The amp's output impedance and the cab's total impedance has much less impact on tone then the impedance of the individual speakers being used.

Two 8ohm v30 in series will be 16ohm total, but they will still have the 8ohm v30 tone.
Two 16ohm v30 in parallel will be an 8ohm total, but will still have the 16ohm v30 tone.

[Aceman]

As long as the mismatch has the cab at higher ohms than the amp's output it just results in the amp running cooler.
Cooler means darker with more sag, so no harm at all but most will prefer the punch of a correct match,

The amp's output impedance and the cab's total impedance has much less impact on tone then the impedance of the individual speakers being used.

Two 8ohm v30 in series will be 16ohm total, but they will still have the 8ohm v30 tone.
Two 16ohm v30 in parallel will be an 8ohm total, but will still have the 16ohm v30 tone.

Interesting. Never knew that.

Is it a big effect, or only something you notice when running high volume/on "10"

[dave74]

Interesting. Never knew that.

Is it a big effect, or only something you notice when running high volume/on "10"

It's one of those things you'd probably never notice unless you do back-to-back A/B comparisons.
16ohm speakers are brighter and slightly more open if compared directly to their 8ohm counterparts.
IMO it's good that most 212 cabs are loaded with 16ohm speakers for that reason, since the size of many 212s can make the tone a bit stuffy compared to a good 412.

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

Those are great cabs. Nearly identical to the ax cabs.
All the 1960 models are built (wood, design and specs) the same. Afaik

I've never been a greenbacks fan, but a lot of people really like them. They don't chug very well. I think your 50w head into that cab will sound great!

Welcome to the Marshall brotherhood, all other cabs will somehow now seem interior! Ha !

[Aceman]

Those are great cabs. Nearly identical to the ax cabs.
All the 1960 models are built (wood, design and specs) the same. Afaik

I've never been a greenbacks fan, but a lot of people really like them. They don't chug very well. I think your 50w head into that cab will sound great!

Welcome to the Marshall brotherhood, all other cabs will somehow now seem interior! Ha !

- Thanks for the note

- I don't chug very well either, so that is fine LOL

- I can do 50 or 100. Either way.

- Welcome? Little late, but thanks!

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

Those little cabs don't count... Kind of like riding a scooter around the streets... it might look like a bike, but the bikers won't acknowledge you.

Plug into that 4x12 and it will all become clear ha ha ha ha.
Just half way ribbing you bud.

I sure do love that Jenna....

[Securb]

Those little cabs don't count... Kind of like riding a scooter around the streets.

Fun to ride but you don't want your friends to see you on one.

[Rex_Rocker]

Those are great cabs. Nearly identical to the ax cabs.
All the 1960 models are built (wood, design and specs) the same. Afaik

I've never been a greenbacks fan, but a lot of people really like them. They don't chug very well. I think your 50w head into that cab will sound great!

Welcome to the Marshall brotherhood, all other cabs will somehow now seem interior! Ha !

Oh, they do!

Straight up Greenbacks from a Marshall cab.

G12-EVH's. Stated by Celestion to be rebranded Heritage Greenbacks.

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

I disagree. They have great tonal characteristics. And that's why people like them. They are underpowered, they sing with a great voice.

But they are well known for being saggy, they get fat and flubby under tight chugs. There are a hundred speakers that do better at being tight and Uber responsive.

[jeremy]

ugh clean the velcro, is that a dead bug on the floor, and what is that zoom disaster? points for the cool wah, though it could use a little wipe down. cable management isnt awful but could be a bit better and is there a reason youre using 50' cables in your living room?

[JMP/HBE]

.

Reason you can mismatch impedance with some Mesa amps is cuz their transformers are spec'd for it.
Most amps cannot tolerate impedance mismatches especially Marshalls.
For best results always match impedance.
There's a price to pay for breaking Ohms Law.