Gibson v Dean trial to start

[Securb]

In the light of the poor reporting and contradictory statements of victory by the attorneys for both sides ("well, he got the chair for murder but I got him off the over 2 ounces of weed charge, and thats a victory" kind of thing), could somebody actually spell out in simple terms who won and lost what?

Reminds me of the Heard/Depp trial. Both sides claim victory but at the end of it all the only thing we know is someone pooped on the bed.

[ICTGoober]

In the light of the poor reporting and contradictory statements of victory by the attorneys for both sides ("well, he got the chair for murder but I got him off the over 2 ounces of weed charge, and thats a victory" kind of thing), could somebody actually spell out in simple terms who won and lost what?

I think that remains to be seen... As whatever was decided plays out in the real world.

[ThreeChordWonder]

In the light of the poor reporting and contradictory statements of victory by the attorneys for both sides ("well, he got the chair for murder but I got him off the over 2 ounces of weed charge, and thats a victory" kind of thing), could somebody actually spell out in simple terms who won and lost what?

[ThreeChordWonder]

Dean left to imagine their own designs can turn into nightmares.

Stage guitar for wannabee Kiss axeman.

[Aceman]

One more funny thing about the Dean headstock design.... doesn't it create more opportunity for binding in the nut with such a wide splay to the tuners? Especially with a trem system (I know its a vibrato turds ...lol).



I would think if they wanted a radical headstock statement they would consider this.... or maybe it's not a big deal? but people b*itch about Gibson's headstock splay and it's not as close to as extreme as Dean's

Having 6 Cadillacs and a couple of V's - yes it does.

Dean doesn't really make any non-locking trim guitars, so non issue.

[NegativeEase]

Good price, well made, ugly . . . that's like the Godin slogan.

They are great value guitars -sound great.

[nexion218]

I think most people agree, this below is the proper approach (unless you go headless)

-but is so ugly -we are willing to suffer some binding issues.....

Goddamit NegE, I just had dinner...

I say slap on a locking nut and enjoy the messed up design.

[ErikH]

I normally dont either -I use nut lube on all my headstock with a angled splay.. and graphtech on some as well

But people b*tch about Gibson with regards to this design issue but I never hear people point out that if you suffer these issues with Gibbys.... technically Deans will be even more problematic from a design stand point.

Yup. On my Gibson, I smooth out the back outer edges of the G and D strings so there's not a sharp corner for the string. Now it's rounded and the strong glides right over it. That and I swipe a pencil through all the slots every string change or if I haven't played it in a while. Stays in tune fine. I haven't played the Dean in a good while but I haven't messed with the nut much other than smoothing out the slots with some 1000 grit wrapped around the string with light tension.

[GuitarStv]

I think most people agree, this below is the proper approach (unless you go headless)

-but is so ugly -we are willing to suffer some binding issues.....

Good price, well made, ugly . . . that's like the Godin slogan.

[NegativeEase]

I can't say I've noticed a tuning issue with my Dean. I keep the slots clean and filed smooth so there is no binding anywhere. Same with my Gibson.

I normally dont either -I use nut lube on all my headstock with a angled splay.. and graphtech on some as well

But people b*tch about Gibson with regards to this design issue but I never hear people point out that if you suffer these issues with Gibbys.... technically Deans will be even more problematic from a design stand point.

[ErikH]

6 in-line solves that problem.

[NegativeEase]

Though joking aside, I guess angling the nut slots can ease some the path of the string. Never had one, so dunno whether they really do it or not. Is they do, worst case it is only as bad as a Gibson. Which then still warrants a suit...

I think most people agree, this below is the proper approach (unless you go headless)

-but is so ugly -we are willing to suffer some binding issues.....

[ErikH]

I can't say I've noticed a tuning issue with my Dean. I keep the slots clean and filed smooth so there is no binding anywhere. Same with my Gibson.

[nexion218]

HAAHAHAHAAHHAHA -Suit: Gibson Suing Dean for stealing their already flawed headstock splay and Dean doubling down and making it radically more problematic than what people already wont shut up about GIbson for....

Though joking aside, I guess angling the nut slots can ease some the path of the string. Never had one, so dunno whether they really do it or not. Is they do, worst case it is only as bad as a Gibson. Which then still warrants a suit...

[NegativeEase]

Gibson should sue them for trying to counterfeit their messed up headstock design and tuning problems...

HAAHAHAHAAHHAHA -Suit: Gibson Suing Dean for stealing their already flawed headstock splay and Dean doubling down and making it radically more problematic than what people already wont shut up about GIbson for....