I give up - whaddaya do?

[jtougas]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

Whaddya do?

I'll tell you what you do...

[Lazarus1140]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

FYI... I had very good results putting an OD in front of a BMP, like Dave Gilmour does. It smooths out the spikeyness and gives you a very Gilmouresque tone.

I tried it both ways yesterday evening and heard and felt little difference. However, I wasn't as loud as I usually play. That is, my ears quit ringing long ago.

I have company coming. When I've had enough I'll try it loud.

[zenmindbeginner]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

If I remember correctly, "Pinnacle" is the new name that was given to Wampler's Ecstacy which is actually the OD that I have been testing the P19 with and the OD that will liklely find its place on the small board. It is one of those pedals that does many tricks but only one that works for me. In fact, it works very well for me, but only in the "open" setting.

The Euphoria replaced the Ecstacy and is one of those Wamplers you don't find for sale on TGP. The Ecstacy is pretty much universally well thought of, so you are in a consensus there.

[Lazarus1140]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

I think the dirty little secret in the gear consumer world is that MOST New Pedal Days are bad ones... the effects pedal section of TGP is the most popular section. There is sooooo much to buy there and that's because most people are underwhelmed by their New Pedal Days.

My last 4 pedals were:

Wampler Pinnacle - Bad NPD (ultimately sold it)

If I remember correctly, "Pinnacle" is the new name that was given to Wampler's Ecstacy which is actually the OD that I have been testing the P19 with and the OD that will liklely find its place on the small board. It is one of those pedals that does many tricks but only one that works for me. In fact, it works very well for me, but only in the "open" setting.

[zenmindbeginner]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

You didn't like your Pinnacle? What amp did you run it through?

Various blackface Fenders. I liked how dynamic it was but it just had a midrange voicing, low end and treble detail that didn't jive with my playing style. Which was really weird because I felt for sure it was going to be a winner.

I have a friend with some nice vintage British amps but I didn't even bother calling him and seeing if I could run the Pinnacle by. Those amps aren't mine, I just get to borrow them and I was looking for something to use with my rig which is blackface Fenders so that's why I didn't bother.

Been wanting to try the Marvel Drive... and of course I will buy any Weehbo pedal sight unseen or unheard, that company is crazy good.

The Dirty Little Secret was fun but I feel like the Marvel Drive could do the Plexi thing better based on what I have heard and read about it.

I was so happy with the (GC red version) ZenDrive that I had no qualms about selling the Pinnacle. I sold it for stupid cheap too!

[GilmourD]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

I think the dirty little secret in the gear consumer world is that MOST New Pedal Days are bad ones... the effects pedal section of TGP is the most popular section. There is sooooo much to buy there and that's because most people are underwhelmed by their New Pedal Days.

My last 4 pedals were:

Wampler Pinnacle - Bad NPD (ultimately sold it)
Lovepedal/Hermida ZenDrive - Good NPD
Bogner Harlow - Good NPD
Mad Professor Simble - lackluster NPD (ultimately sold it)

And I consider myself a crazy good & very informed consumer... I don't even average 50% success.

Makes me wish I lived next to Mad Ape. Instead, all I've got are GC and Sam Ash an hour away from me. My local store is a joke.

You didn't like your Pinnacle? What amp did you run it through?

[zenmindbeginner]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

I think the dirty little secret in the gear consumer world is that MOST New Pedal Days are bad ones... the effects pedal section of TGP is the most popular section. There is sooooo much to buy there and that's because most people are underwhelmed by their New Pedal Days.

My last 4 pedals were:

Wampler Pinnacle - Bad NPD (ultimately sold it)
Lovepedal/Hermida ZenDrive - Good NPD
Bogner Harlow - Good NPD
Mad Professor Simble - lackluster NPD (ultimately sold it)

And I consider myself a crazy good & very informed consumer... I don't even average 50% success.

Makes me wish I lived next to Mad Ape. Instead, all I've got are GC and Sam Ash an hour away from me. My local store is a joke.

[GilmourD]

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No offense take, and if I seem edgy it's because I have more than a few pedals that I researched to the nth degree before purchasing and ultimately relegating to the big bin in the closet.

I came home from work today to give it anoth run-through, and honetly it sounds pretty good. The amp just needs a push before the pedal comes into its sweet spot.

I am only slightly disappointed with its magnification of single coil hum. In the notch positions it's not a problem. I'm still not sure what to do though. The small board is intended for places where stage volume is really limited.

That's exactly why Gilmour used an OD along with his BMP since he runs his amps clean.

[Lazarus1140]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

Sorry, did not mean to imply anything, just saying how my experience goes with pedals.

No offense taken. If I seemed a little edgy it's because I have more than a few pedals that I researched to the Nth degree before purchasing and ultimately relegating them to the large "you don't cut it" bin in the closet.

I came home from work today to give it another run-through, and honetly it sounds pretty good. The amp just needs a push before the pedal comes into its sweet spot.

I am only slightly disappointed with its magnification of single coil hum. In the notch positions it's not a problem. I'm still not sure what to do, though. The small board is intended for places where stage volume is really limited.

[hydro]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

One large board and one small board is all I need.

[JeffB]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

On both my boards the fuzz is the first pedal after the tuner and right before the OD, and I tried the reverse order with the P19 and oddly there was very little difference.

The pedal was not an impulse buy. I studied fuzz pedals for a very long time before making the decision to buy one.

If the Pharaoh were available in a smaller enclosure my current dilemma would not exist.

Sorry, did not mean to imply anything, just saying how my experience goes with pedals. "this is what I have learned, and now what I do"..to answer the "whaddya-do" part of your post.

I would chalk it up to rig incompatibility, or just a taste issue (until you try it through another rig, hard to say...)

If you are running a clean amp and a bunch of dirt boxes, IME, more whacky things are bound to happen.

[GilmourD]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

I did read that review and upon rereading am surprised that the author would prefer more high end and more mid-scoop and that he would describe the mid-range as dark and creamy. That is not my experience ... a little darker and creamier would suit me just fine.

FYI... I had very good results putting an OD in front of a BMP, like Dave Gilmour does. It smooths out the spikeyness and gives you a very Gilmouresque tone.

[Lazarus1140]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

So, I just looked up the Skreddy P19. So, it's more Big Muff-ish than Fuzz Face-ish.

Have you seen this? http://www.gilmourish.com/?p=4907

I did read that review and upon rereading am surprised that the author would prefer more high end and more mid-scoop and that he would describe the mid-range as dark and creamy. That is not my experience ... a little darker and creamier would suit me just fine.

[Lazarus1140]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

Have you tried a Swollen Pickle fuzz? It can do compressed and woolly all in the same box.

I have not tried one.

[GilmourD]

Re: I give up - whaddaya do?

So, I just looked up the Skreddy P19. So, it's more Big Muff-ish than Fuzz Face-ish.

Have you seen this? http://www.gilmourish.com/?p=4907