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Originally posted by Rex_Rocker View PostWell, that would work I guess if you wanted a scooped sound out of an SD-1. But at least when using it as a boost to tighten things up, I don't see why you would, LOL.You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright
Whilst you can only wonder why
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Yup, the entirety of the midscoop is from the fact that the tone control is just a bass cut and treble cut operating at the same time. Where the corner frequencies are now, at noon the bass control filters out bass and mids, and the treble control filters out treble and mids.
If you put a trim pot in for R16 (bass) and R17 (treble), you should be able to get just about any sound you want out of one. Those resistors are for a DS-1, but if you see how they fit into the circuit, you can translate to any Big Muff circuit or any other pedal that uses that style tone control.You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright
Whilst you can only wonder why
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Yeah, sadly.
How little, though?
Because when using EMG?s you *barely* get unity gain cranking a TS's output, I find. With a Boss SD-1, yeah, it's slightly quieter.
With HOT pickups like the Black Winter or X2N, forget it.
But I find that's the nature of distortion and overdrive pedals designed way back. The DS-1 for me is a particularly bad example. Even a Metal Zone's output is relatively quiet by today's hot pickups standards.
Good thing is I never run an SD-1 in front of a clean channel to notice.
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Originally posted by Rex_Rocker View PostYeah, sadly.
How little, though?
Because when using EMG?s you *barely* get unity gain cranking a TS's output, I find. With a Boss SD-1, yeah, it's slightly quieter.
With HOT pickups like the Black Winter or X2N, forget it.
But I find that's the nature of distortion and overdrive pedals designed way back. The DS-1 for me is a particularly bad example. Even a Metal Zone's output is relatively quiet by today's hot pickups standards.
Good thing is I never run an SD-1 in front of a clean channel to notice.
Larry
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Originally posted by larryguitar View Post
Well, my TS clone, OD-1, Uzi, Riot clone and Splinter all put out so much more output that I had to pull the DS-1, since I couldn't get it to the 'unity' setting on my board. Wonder if it's jacked? Bought it new a couple years ago. Anyone know a way to test its output level?
Larry
Because the SD-1 is just a tad quieter than the TS. So I'm sure if you're using like non-blistering-hot metal humbuckers and picking like a sledgehammer 100% of the time, you'll be fine.
But yeah, the DS-1's output is famelic, IME.
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Originally posted by larryguitar View Post
Well, my TS clone, OD-1, Uzi, Riot clone and Splinter all put out so much more output that I had to pull the DS-1, since I couldn't get it to the 'unity' setting on my board. Wonder if it's jacked? Bought it new a couple years ago. Anyone know a way to test its output level?
Larry
If you do that, prepare to be disappointed, though. You'll actually see that something like a Tube Screamer never actually "slams an amp's front end" like we're lead to believe, LOL
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Originally posted by Rex_Rocker View PostIf you do that, prepare to be disappointed, though. You'll actually see that something like a Tube Screamer never actually "slams an amp's front end" like we're lead to believe, LOL
I used to get so annoyed at the Premier Guitar “Monsters Of High Gain” videos where the point is to show off how the amp sounds, including amps designed to give that modern sound straight in and half the time, they feature guitar players who insist on using a TS in front every time, which defeats the purpose and raises the question why they won’t at least try to get the sound from a Fryette or Thrasher without a d@mn box in front??
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Originally posted by Beer$ View PostExplains why I never liked them. I don’t usually need a huge push. Even so, it’s method of “tightening up the sound” takes too much that I do like about the sound of the amp it’s in front of and adds too much that I don’t. Even as an overdrive, I find it too cloudy and thin.
I used to get so annoyed at the Premier Guitar “Monsters Of High Gain” videos where the point is to show off how the amp sounds, including amps designed to give that modern sound straight in and half the time, they feature guitar players who insist on using a TS in front every time, which defeats the purpose and raises the question why they won’t at least try to get the sound from a Fryette or Thrasher without a d@mn box in front??
I like a 5150III without one for sure.
But I wouldn't dream of using a Recto without one. For the stuff I play, at least. Or a JCM800. Or even an OG 5150.
JMO.
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Originally posted by Rex_Rocker View PostIt's amp-dependant, IMO.
I like a 5150III without one for sure.
But I wouldn't dream of using a Recto without one. For the stuff I play, at least. Or a JCM800. Or even an OG 5150.
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Originally posted by larryguitar View PostIs it normal for an SD-1 to have very little output? I had to take mine off my board, since I couldn't get it to unity gain with my (cough, 'several') other dirt pedals. That's using a power supply.
LarryYou will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright
Whilst you can only wonder why
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Originally posted by Rex_Rocker View Post
But yeah, the DS-1's output is famelic, IME.You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright
Whilst you can only wonder why
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Originally posted by Chistopher View Post
What year is the pedal from? This can happen if you use a 9v supply with an older pedal designed for a 12v supply.
Larry
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