I just noticed the SH-1b '59 bridge has more mV output than you'd think. And where is the SH-1n '59 Model neck?
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I think the mv ratings are correct.
Dimarzio waits a certain amount of time after strike and measure the open a string. The delay would lower the peak drastically. Which is what the data shows.
my own opinion on why the dimebucker and full shred are so high, and the custom custom is so low in comparison (same wind and magnet as the full shred, but about 150mv less output) is that the more trebley the pickup, the higher the output.
My personal experience with the full shred set is that there does seem to be a drop in perceived volume as i cut the tone pot down. It gets worse as i go lower.
sounds plausible, no?
Please, pick this theory apart!
I'd love to figure this out!
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Ignore list. Use ears and experience, or ask people who generally know about relative comparisons.Originally posted by Bad City
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MODEL OUTPUT PA-STK1n Parallel Axis Stack 291 SH-18n Whole Lotta HB Neck 382 SH-3 Stag Mag 389 SH-55n Seth Lover Model Neck 399 SH-55b Seth Lover Model Bridge 399 SH-18b Whole Lotta HB Bridge 440 APH-1n Alnico II Pro Neck 452 APH-2n Slash Alnico II Pro Neck 475 SH-8SGn Synyster Gates Neck 491 SH-8n Invader Neck 491 Sentient 499 APH-1b Alnico II Pro Bridge 499 SH-12 Screamin' Demon 500 SH-2n Jazz Model Neck 501 SH-PG1n Pearly Gates Neck 513 PA-TB1n Original Parallel Axis Neck 515 APH-2b Slash Alnico II Pro Bridge 524 LW-CH2n LiveWire II Classic Neck 534 SH-PG1b Pearly Gates Bridge 543 Pegasus 555 SH-2b Jazz Model Bridge 571 SH-1n '59 Model Neck 572 SH-11 Custom Custom 574 Perpetual Burn Bridge 582 SH-1b '59 Model Bridge 593 SH-16 '59/Custom Hybrid 625 SH-14 Custom 5 646 Nazgul 666 PA-TB3b Blues Saraceno 694 SH-10n Full Shred Neck 709 SH-10b Full Shred Bridge 724 SH-6n Duncan Distortion Neck 732 SH-4 JB Model 737 PA-TB2b Distortion Parallel Axis 741 Black Winter Neck 744 PA-TB1b Original Parallel Axis Bridge 749 SH-15 Alternative 8 761 Black Winter Bridge 763 SH-5 Duncan Custom 784 SH-6b Duncan Distortion Bridge 792 SH-8SGb Synyster Gates Bridge 813 SH-8b Invader Bridge 813 LW-CH2b LiveWire II Classic Bridge 936 AHB-3n EMTY Blackouts Neck 1079 LW-Must LiveWire Dave Mustaine Neck 1080 SH-13 Dimebucker 1160 AHB-1n Blackouts Neck 1283 LW-Must LiveWire Dave Mustaine Bridge 1368 AHB-3b EMTY Blackouts Bridge 1419 AHB-1b Blackouts Bridge 1598 AHB-11n Gus G Fire Blackouts Neck 1725 AHB-11b Gus G Fire Backouts Bridge 1784 AHB-10n Blackouts Coil Pack Neck 1829 AHB-10b Blackouts Coil Pack Bridge 1870 AHB-2b Blackouts Metal 3648
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There are definitely some small discrepancies in the SD results. For example, no one who has played both a PATB-1 and a PATB-2 is likely to suggest that the PATB-1 has the higher output. Even on their respective product pages today, SD shows the PATB-2 as having the higher output.
Nonetheless, most of the values on the table seem to fall in line with what would be expected, at least in a relative sense.
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It is a guide really. It isn't exclusive across all frequencies either, but it is most useful when comparing pickups of the same type. I don't know if I'd notice (in an actual guitar) the difference between 450mV and 500mV.Administrator of the SDUGF
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PAF Level: Seth, 59, PG, Jazz, A2P
Hot PAF: Demon, Whole Lotta?
Hot: Custom 5, Custom Custom, JB, Full Shred?
Very Hot: Distortion, Black Winter, Custom, Invader, Dimebucker
Just to my ears...
Originally posted by Bad City
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Originally posted by Clint 55 View PostThe mv chart isn't any more accurate than trying to rank pups by dcr in my view. Pretty sad effort.
I think this is a much more accurate reflection of relative output than DCR alone. Of course, most of us that are familiar with the progression of DCR for each gauge of wire and the effects of magnets pretty much knew this info without objective measurements.
Still, I think this IS a better way to show the relative output of SD pickups, even if the method was prone to a small margin of error. There are a couple outliers in the chart, but it's actually fairly consistent overall.Last edited by Masta' C; 02-06-2022, 03:13 PM.
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Originally posted by Clint 55 View PostThe mv chart isn't any more accurate than trying to rank pups by dcr in my view. Pretty sad effort.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Mincer View Post
It was accurate on the day the experiments were performed. It is pretty impossible to test all variables across all frequencies consistently. So if you wanna know that an Invader is much louder than a 59, then this is your chart.
How much louder in actual human hearing dB? Who knows....Originally posted by Bad City
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