Andrew Lamprecht
Minion of One
Loud enough for small clubs?
15 Watt RMS Clean Amps
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Re: 15 Watt RMS Clean Amps
with a efficient speaker yes it can be loud enough, as long as you dont need loads of clean headroom.
typically i gig with either a 12w custom 1x12 amp, a 15w fender tweed deluxe clone or a 20w deluxe reverb. i never really need more than any of those give me but i dont need a totally clean sound very often.
with a efficient speaker yes it can be loud enough, as long as you dont need loads of clean headroom.
typically i gig with either a 12w custom 1x12 amp, a 15w fender tweed deluxe clone or a 20w deluxe reverb. i never really need more than any of those give me but i dont need a totally clean sound very often.
Lake Placid Blues
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Re: 15 Watt RMS Clean Amps
In most cases, yes, if it doesn't need to be sparkling clean, but it depends to a large extent on the drummer.
I played with some drummers were I could not hear myself over the drums at all with a Super Champ -even run through a 4x12 cab with Vintage 30's. Good PA and monitor facilities can change the ball game though. However, I just HATE not be in control of my own stage volume, and depending on somebodies monitor mix to properly balance me against the typical drum's stage volume. I got to the point were if they were going to insist on mic'ing me up and controling my stage volume and monitor mix for me, that I would turn down the gig.
In most cases, yes, if it doesn't need to be sparkling clean, but it depends to a large extent on the drummer.
I played with some drummers were I could not hear myself over the drums at all with a Super Champ -even run through a 4x12 cab with Vintage 30's. Good PA and monitor facilities can change the ball game though. However, I just HATE not be in control of my own stage volume, and depending on somebodies monitor mix to properly balance me against the typical drum's stage volume. I got to the point were if they were going to insist on mic'ing me up and controling my stage volume and monitor mix for me, that I would turn down the gig.
J Moose
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Re: 15 Watt RMS Clean Amps
Nothing that I know about. Cleans, depending on how clean you want/need to be require ample headroom. When Garaj Mahal came through my old club a few years back, Fareed Haque was using a 3 or 400 watt Trace Elliot bass head because he wanted to be super clean but loud.
Of course, if you're playing for 30 odd people in a dingy jazz club with an upright bass & piano, you can get a Deluxe Reverb and be totally fine...
But something like a Tiny Terror or AC15 won't hold up at rock club volumes... not clean anyway.
Nothing that I know about. Cleans, depending on how clean you want/need to be require ample headroom. When Garaj Mahal came through my old club a few years back, Fareed Haque was using a 3 or 400 watt Trace Elliot bass head because he wanted to be super clean but loud.
Of course, if you're playing for 30 odd people in a dingy jazz club with an upright bass & piano, you can get a Deluxe Reverb and be totally fine...
But something like a Tiny Terror or AC15 won't hold up at rock club volumes... not clean anyway.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: 15 Watt RMS Clean Amps
Almost all amps will be rated at wattage RMS before clipping, this means clean...a Deluxe reverb for example is 22 watts RMS before clip, or clean...and if thats what you are talking about then yes a 15 watt can be used in gig settings...like Jeremy said with an efficient speaker.
Remember...you can not hear a watt...decibles on the other hand can be heard.
Almost all amps will be rated at wattage RMS before clipping, this means clean...a Deluxe reverb for example is 22 watts RMS before clip, or clean...and if thats what you are talking about then yes a 15 watt can be used in gig settings...like Jeremy said with an efficient speaker.
Remember...you can not hear a watt...decibles on the other hand can be heard.
Andrew Lamprecht
Minion of One
Re: 15 Watt RMS Clean Amps
Well the speaker in it is a Celestion Vintage 30 GH12, 70th Anniversary...
Well the speaker in it is a Celestion Vintage 30 GH12, 70th Anniversary...
Lake Placid Blues
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Re: 15 Watt RMS Clean Amps
It is easy to confuse the Vintage 30 and the G12H30 because of the similar naming but they are actually different speakers.
The G12H30 70th Anniversary is a reissue of the old G12H30 with a 75 hz resonance cone that Jimmy Page was fond of using. It was originally discontinued in about 1979. It is rated at 30 watts power handling.
The Vintage 30 was developed during the mid 1980's as an ceramic magnet (less expensive) and high power handling alternative to the original Celestion G12 with Alnico magnet rated at 15 watts. It used a voice coil with the same mass and movement properties as the G12 Alnico and they used lazers to measure the cone movement properties of a particular reference G12 and to get the V30 to emulate these. The V30 used the bass 444 cone from the bass version of the G12H30 as well as the same H magnet as the G12H30 because these best matched the measurable properties of their reference G12 Alnico. It was not intended to be a re-issue of the G12H30, but they named it the Vintage 30 as clever marketing. The V30 is rated at 60 watts power handling.
The G12H30 and the V30, however, do have the same effciency or loudness of 100 db's. This is considered efficient.
Although the V30 was designed to emulate the bright chimey properties a particular G12 alnico, it proved to be very well suited for modern high gain amplfiers.
There also now the G12H30 Heritage re-issue. It uses a 55hz resonance cone instead of the the 75 hz resonance cone that 70th Anni uses.
It is easy to confuse the Vintage 30 and the G12H30 because of the similar naming but they are actually different speakers.
The G12H30 70th Anniversary is a reissue of the old G12H30 with a 75 hz resonance cone that Jimmy Page was fond of using. It was originally discontinued in about 1979. It is rated at 30 watts power handling.
The Vintage 30 was developed during the mid 1980's as an ceramic magnet (less expensive) and high power handling alternative to the original Celestion G12 with Alnico magnet rated at 15 watts. It used a voice coil with the same mass and movement properties as the G12 Alnico and they used lazers to measure the cone movement properties of a particular reference G12 and to get the V30 to emulate these. The V30 used the bass 444 cone from the bass version of the G12H30 as well as the same H magnet as the G12H30 because these best matched the measurable properties of their reference G12 Alnico. It was not intended to be a re-issue of the G12H30, but they named it the Vintage 30 as clever marketing. The V30 is rated at 60 watts power handling.
The G12H30 and the V30, however, do have the same effciency or loudness of 100 db's. This is considered efficient.
Although the V30 was designed to emulate the bright chimey properties a particular G12 alnico, it proved to be very well suited for modern high gain amplfiers.
There also now the G12H30 Heritage re-issue. It uses a 55hz resonance cone instead of the the 75 hz resonance cone that 70th Anni uses.
