5150IIIS EL34 announced from EVH
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Christopher Caruana
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I have the 2x12 evh 111 combo. It's a modern day classic. It's a tone monster and it's rugged. It's by far my favorite distortion Amp. I had the 50 watt head and I liked it too but I had to push of course and it was loud. The attenuator of the combo adds different tones sonically and can be blended at different levels to get different tones. I also play it with my guitar volume at 6 and get delightful crunchy chords and then turn the volume up to 10 for a solo or fill. El34's will give it a little different clip tone and gain tone. No right or wrong here, just personal tone preference. I'm never giving up my combo. I can practice with huge tone at low watts and yet gig out with it and it can blast out any room. As you can guess, I'm not famous enough to play stadiums but somthing tells me this Amp could probably hold its own on any big stage if someone used it that way. All I can say is.........Thanks Eddie!
I have the 2x12 evh 111 combo. It's a modern day classic. It's a tone monster and it's rugged. It's by far my favorite distortion Amp. I had the 50 watt head and I liked it too but I had to push of course and it was loud. The attenuator of the combo adds different tones sonically and can be blended at different levels to get different tones. I also play it with my guitar volume at 6 and get delightful crunchy chords and then turn the volume up to 10 for a solo or fill. El34's will give it a little different clip tone and gain tone. No right or wrong here, just personal tone preference. I'm never giving up my combo. I can practice with huge tone at low watts and yet gig out with it and it can blast out any room. As you can guess, I'm not famous enough to play stadiums but somthing tells me this Amp could probably hold its own on any big stage if someone used it that way. All I can say is.........Thanks Eddie!
LLL
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Not really (because it's the gear the artist uses in both cases), but suit yourself. Ragging on dudes who study Ed's tone while you proudly display his logo in your profile pic and talk up the actual gear Ed uses really doesn't make any damn sense.
As you were, kid.
Not really (because it's the gear the artist uses in both cases), but suit yourself. Ragging on dudes who study Ed's tone while you proudly display his logo in your profile pic and talk up the actual gear Ed uses really doesn't make any damn sense.
As you were, kid.
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Christopher Caruana
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LLL
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In Ed's case, he uses the actual gear he sells.
So, if you dig his tone and use the actual amp he sells/uses, then you're using his actual gear and therefore similar tone as he... the same way a tone chaser would.
Besides, every tone I chase (and there's more than one), I incorporate something from them into my own tone.
In Ed's case, my JTM45 is permanently (well, without breaking out the soldering iron) set to run with a variac at 100v:
https://soundcloud.com/lefty-lounge-lizard/lll-bleuz-cheez
In Ed's case, he uses the actual gear he sells.
So, if you dig his tone and use the actual amp he sells/uses, then you're using his actual gear and therefore similar tone as he... the same way a tone chaser would.
Besides, every tone I chase (and there's more than one), I incorporate something from them into my own tone.
In Ed's case, my JTM45 is permanently (well, without breaking out the soldering iron) set to run with a variac at 100v:
https://soundcloud.com/lefty-lounge-lizard/lll-bleuz-cheez
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RestInPeace
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This version of the 5150 is darker and more organic sounding than the previous versions from EVH/Fender and PV but the guy demoing it at SNAMM is wrong Ed's plexi did not run on EL34s but the American equivalent 6CA7s either made by Sylvania or Tungsoll it'd be interesting to hear this amp rebiased to accept 6CA7s ...
This version of the 5150 is darker and more organic sounding than the previous versions from EVH/Fender and PV but the guy demoing it at SNAMM is wrong Ed's plexi did not run on EL34s but the American equivalent 6CA7s either made by Sylvania or Tungsoll it'd be interesting to hear this amp rebiased to accept 6CA7s ...
Lake Placid Blues
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Fat bottle 6CA7s should bias more or less the same as skinny bottle EL34s. There was a batch of EH re-issue 6CA7s that biased different several years ago, but that was just one batch. Doesn't the Fender 5150 have adjustable bias?
Fat bottle 6CA7s should bias more or less the same as skinny bottle EL34s. There was a batch of EH re-issue 6CA7s that biased different several years ago, but that was just one batch. Doesn't the Fender 5150 have adjustable bias?
Kamanda~SD
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Agreed. It gets even more fun the farther back you go. Now we see 6Ca7 and EL34's as beam tetrode and pentode design respectively, BUT you used to see alot of older tubes marked 6Ca7/EL34, much like ECC83/ 12ax7.
Proof here:
https://www.tubeworld.com/6ca7gep10.jpg
http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.ne...958-mint-a260bba91936107d70284eed8010bbeb.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2MVgxNjAw/z/4wAAAOSwd4tT7QeR/$_57.JPG
So for Ed's amp back then it could really make 0 difference.
Agreed. It gets even more fun the farther back you go. Now we see 6Ca7 and EL34's as beam tetrode and pentode design respectively, BUT you used to see alot of older tubes marked 6Ca7/EL34, much like ECC83/ 12ax7.
Proof here:
https://www.tubeworld.com/6ca7gep10.jpg
http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.ne...958-mint-a260bba91936107d70284eed8010bbeb.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2MVgxNjAw/z/4wAAAOSwd4tT7QeR/$_57.JPG
So for Ed's amp back then it could really make 0 difference.
LLL
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Ed used a 1968 Superlead plexi, not a JTM45.
The item I got (incorporated into my tone) from his early tone is the variac / lower voltage schtick... you should try it sometime.
Ed used a 1968 Superlead plexi, not a JTM45.
The item I got (incorporated into my tone) from his early tone is the variac / lower voltage schtick... you should try it sometime.
RestInPeace
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Sorry can't figure out this new app ... Ed used big bottle Sylvania 6ca7s not the standard thin bottle EL34s they were similar in tone as 6L6GCs more glassy less grungy
Sorry can't figure out this new app ... Ed used big bottle Sylvania 6ca7s not the standard thin bottle EL34s they were similar in tone as 6L6GCs more glassy less grungy
Lake Placid Blues
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I have both fat bottle 6CA7s and skinny bottle EL34s. In my opinion they sound and respond more like each other than the 6L6 family. The 6CA7 has more headroom and bass than the typical EL34, even though the basic tone is similar, though
I have both fat bottle 6CA7s and skinny bottle EL34s. In my opinion they sound and respond more like each other than the 6L6 family. The 6CA7 has more headroom and bass than the typical EL34, even though the basic tone is similar, though
Kamanda~SD
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Let me repost this since no one read it in the first place:
Agreed. It gets even more fun the farther back you go. Now we see 6Ca7 and EL34's as beam tetrode and pentode design respectively, BUT you used to see alot of older tubes marked 6Ca7/EL34, much like ECC83/ 12ax7.
Proof here:
https://www.tubeworld.com/6ca7gep10.jpg
http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net...ed8010bbeb.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2MVgxNjAw/z/4wAAAOSwd4tT7QeR/$_57.JPG
So for Ed's amp back then it could really make 0 difference.
Let me repost this since no one read it in the first place:
Agreed. It gets even more fun the farther back you go. Now we see 6Ca7 and EL34's as beam tetrode and pentode design respectively, BUT you used to see alot of older tubes marked 6Ca7/EL34, much like ECC83/ 12ax7.
Proof here:
https://www.tubeworld.com/6ca7gep10.jpg
http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net...ed8010bbeb.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2MVgxNjAw/z/4wAAAOSwd4tT7QeR/$_57.JPG
So for Ed's amp back then it could really make 0 difference.
Re: 5150IIIS EL34 announced from EVH
Sag, or whatever it is that makes that tone sound so gooey!!! So if its sag, I like sag... except on wimmenz.. haha
Sag, or whatever it is that makes that tone sound so gooey!!! So if its sag, I like sag... except on wimmenz.. haha
mantis
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The Lead channel was a bit noisy but you could dial in some killer tones.
I returned mine as I also hated the volume spike between the Clean and Crunch. They should have at least had 2 volume controls for that channel or just moved the Crunch to the Lead channel and shared there. I would still own it if that where so.
I was so disappointed in the 50 watt head. The 3 channels when dialed in by them selves where fantastic but the shared EQ for clean and crunch sucked. When I dialed in a fantastic clean , my Crunch suffered and visa versa.
The Lead channel was a bit noisy but you could dial in some killer tones.
I returned mine as I also hated the volume spike between the Clean and Crunch. They should have at least had 2 volume controls for that channel or just moved the Crunch to the Lead channel and shared there. I would still own it if that where so.
jmh151
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Voodoo Amps has mods for them, I'll be shipping mine off to them in the fall
Voodoo Amps has mods for them, I'll be shipping mine off to them in the fall