Kommerzbassist
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Ok guys, sorry for another PG question thread, but what are the main differences between these to (tone wise)?
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'59 v.s. Pearly Gates
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Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
Here you go man, my PAF style pup breakdown
The 59---The 59 is the quintessential A5 PAF (patent applied for) pup. Imagine getting in a time machine and going back to 1959 and swiping a brand new A5 pup from the Gibson factory in Kalamazoo and bringing it forward to today. They have found most homes in many neck slots. It has symetrical coils and lots of quack. It has thumping bass, a scooped mid, and cutting highs. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire
The Seth Lover---This pup is as true to the original as can be. This pup is unpotted and comes standard with a gold, or nickel pup cover. It has an A2 magnet and has good quack and fair mids. For this pup imagine going back in time to 1955 and grabbing one of the very first PAF's before they debuted in the LP's. This pup is warm and creamy, but can also get bright with the tone knob on 10. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire
The Alnico 2 Pro---The warmest of the Duncan PAF line. It has symetrical coils and is a modern take on the A2 PAFs. It has round bass and smooth treble, it also has lots of mids to make the guitar really sing. It will warm up the coldest or shrillest of guitars. The most well known Alnico 2 Pro user is Slash of Velvet Revolver and GNR. Standard 4 Conductor Wire
Pearly Gates---The PG is the hottest of the Duncan PAF line. It has asymetrical (mismatched) coils and an A2 magnet. The mismatched coils give this particular pup its rude personality. It has a frequency push in the Presence/Cut knob frequency band. This is the "Sizzle" PG owner talk about. It has the most mids of the Ducan PAF line and is also the hottest. Its patron is Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top. Standard 4 conductor Wire
The Jazz---The jazz is the pup that bridges the gap between Vintage and Modern pups. Its output is at or around the vintage level. Don't let the name fool you this pup is very versatile and smooth. It has an A5 magnet and is very widely used in the neck slot. It is articulate regardless of the tuning as well. This pup negociates cleans or overdrive very well. Standard 4 Conductor Wire
Hope this helps!
Luke
Here you go man, my PAF style pup breakdown
The 59---The 59 is the quintessential A5 PAF (patent applied for) pup. Imagine getting in a time machine and going back to 1959 and swiping a brand new A5 pup from the Gibson factory in Kalamazoo and bringing it forward to today. They have found most homes in many neck slots. It has symetrical coils and lots of quack. It has thumping bass, a scooped mid, and cutting highs. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire
The Seth Lover---This pup is as true to the original as can be. This pup is unpotted and comes standard with a gold, or nickel pup cover. It has an A2 magnet and has good quack and fair mids. For this pup imagine going back in time to 1955 and grabbing one of the very first PAF's before they debuted in the LP's. This pup is warm and creamy, but can also get bright with the tone knob on 10. Vintage 2 Conductor Wire
The Alnico 2 Pro---The warmest of the Duncan PAF line. It has symetrical coils and is a modern take on the A2 PAFs. It has round bass and smooth treble, it also has lots of mids to make the guitar really sing. It will warm up the coldest or shrillest of guitars. The most well known Alnico 2 Pro user is Slash of Velvet Revolver and GNR. Standard 4 Conductor Wire
Pearly Gates---The PG is the hottest of the Duncan PAF line. It has asymetrical (mismatched) coils and an A2 magnet. The mismatched coils give this particular pup its rude personality. It has a frequency push in the Presence/Cut knob frequency band. This is the "Sizzle" PG owner talk about. It has the most mids of the Ducan PAF line and is also the hottest. Its patron is Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top. Standard 4 conductor Wire
The Jazz---The jazz is the pup that bridges the gap between Vintage and Modern pups. Its output is at or around the vintage level. Don't let the name fool you this pup is very versatile and smooth. It has an A5 magnet and is very widely used in the neck slot. It is articulate regardless of the tuning as well. This pup negociates cleans or overdrive very well. Standard 4 Conductor Wire
Hope this helps!
Luke
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
Thanks Luke, that helps for sure!
Thanks Luke, that helps for sure!
fretburner
Well-known member
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
Which is warmer ("round" tone) and more articulate of the two?
I'm been thinking whether to go C5/59 or C5/PGn on my LP.
Thanks!
Which is warmer ("round" tone) and more articulate of the two?
I'm been thinking whether to go C5/59 or C5/PGn on my LP.
Thanks!
JeffB
Let it B
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
PG=Bright with lots of mids and high end sizzle (mismatched wind). Sounds good in a darker guitar.
59= Bright without much mids at all...More "Sweet" sounding high end. Can be "boomy" in the neck or bridge. Sounds better in a middy instrument vs. a more balanced instrument (tonally), IMO.
If the axe is bright already, steer clear of both.
PG=Bright with lots of mids and high end sizzle (mismatched wind). Sounds good in a darker guitar.
59= Bright without much mids at all...More "Sweet" sounding high end. Can be "boomy" in the neck or bridge. Sounds better in a middy instrument vs. a more balanced instrument (tonally), IMO.
If the axe is bright already, steer clear of both.
fretburner
Well-known member
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
I guess then that an a 59 would sound better in a Les Paul?
JeffB said:
I guess then that an a 59 would sound better in a Les Paul?
JeffB
Let it B
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
Not necc...I've had them in Paulas and they sounded flippin awesome...and in a couple (and other gibson-esque stuff like Hamer) they were WAYY too woofy and/or bright.
Pends on the individual instrument/piece of wood. I think a pair of 59s woulda been perfect in the 60s neck Black Standard I had last year. That instrument had avg low and high end with more prominent midrange. In my faded standard I think the PG woulda worked great as the guitar already possessed good low end/low mids.
fretburner said:
Not necc...I've had them in Paulas and they sounded flippin awesome...and in a couple (and other gibson-esque stuff like Hamer) they were WAYY too woofy and/or bright.
Pends on the individual instrument/piece of wood. I think a pair of 59s woulda been perfect in the 60s neck Black Standard I had last year. That instrument had avg low and high end with more prominent midrange. In my faded standard I think the PG woulda worked great as the guitar already possessed good low end/low mids.
ErikH
Well-known member
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
Pardon???? A 59 in a maple body would be an icepick through the ears and temples, seriously. It hurts just thinking about it...lol. A maple guitar needs something like the CC to tame the brightness of maple. The 59 works great in mahogany, but like Jeff said, it depends on the cut.ponch said:
fretburner
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Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
I really like a middy neck pup... i love the Air Norton on my Ibanez RG, and the APH1 on my Epi LP... I just want variety, so I don't want to get another APH1 (though that would seem to be more logical since they would have different woods anyway). This is a hard decision for some who doesn't have the luxury of availing that 21-day guarantee.
JeffB said:
I really like a middy neck pup... i love the Air Norton on my Ibanez RG, and the APH1 on my Epi LP... I just want variety, so I don't want to get another APH1 (though that would seem to be more logical since they would have different woods anyway). This is a hard decision for some who doesn't have the luxury of availing that 21-day guarantee.
vinterland
New member
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
I'm in the process of sorting out my neck bucker dilemma at the moment as well. I think its down to a jazz or PG to pair up with a screamin demon in the bridge.
I'm in the process of sorting out my neck bucker dilemma at the moment as well. I think its down to a jazz or PG to pair up with a screamin demon in the bridge.
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JeffB
Let it B
Re: '59 v.s. Pearly Gates
I think what you want/look into is a Seth Lover. Or a Gibson Burst Bucker1/57 classic. Something A2. With a bit more "bite" than a APH1, but still warm and middy.
I posted a clip over in Tips and clips of my Tokai Paula with a 57 neck a couple days back. Don't know how much gain you use, but may give ya an idea of how a BB1/57/Seth will sound (in general). Neck pup starts at 2 min in and runs to about 3 mins.
fretburner said:
I think what you want/look into is a Seth Lover. Or a Gibson Burst Bucker1/57 classic. Something A2. With a bit more "bite" than a APH1, but still warm and middy.
I posted a clip over in Tips and clips of my Tokai Paula with a 57 neck a couple days back. Don't know how much gain you use, but may give ya an idea of how a BB1/57/Seth will sound (in general). Neck pup starts at 2 min in and runs to about 3 mins.
For my rig...Pearly. Hands down. The 59 sounded good, but the Pearly sounds GREAT. The A2 gives my guitar some much needed body. The '59 is SCOOPED with a capital T and has highs that can pierce. No matter what, you can't just dial it out by turning down the high knob on your amp, because the transient still responds the same underneath it. I wanted my leads to not sound so...spikey.
Shocking part about the PG is that it's got a lot of crunch to it, it just sweetens up the transient on the high-end and is more pleasant on the ears. I play hard rock and metal.
Find your tone is definitely a balancing act of knowing what your guitar is missing (or needs to miss!)
Shocking part about the PG is that it's got a lot of crunch to it, it just sweetens up the transient on the high-end and is more pleasant on the ears. I play hard rock and metal.
Find your tone is definitely a balancing act of knowing what your guitar is missing (or needs to miss!)
Aceman
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Don't know that the OP is even here anymore, but thank for the review!
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