A custom 5 based trembucker.

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Micha said:
Hello everyone.
I went to get my guitar today at my luthier's house.

The hybrid jb / full shred is mounted on it. I can test as I want .... I think I made a mistake by making this customshop pup
Let me explain ....
The first important thing:
this pup has an aggressiveness like I've never heard before. I think this is clearly because of the alnico 8.
I like metal ..... I like to have power with a pup, like we all know with usual pickups .... But here it's too much.
Each guitar stroke is a blow in the face. It's too aggressive (I never thought I'd write such a thing one day).
Attention ... I'm not saying it's a bad pickup .... certainly not, but clearly with alico 8, too aggressive.
What I love is that he have the harmonics like active pup's (emg 81). It's really the same.


The second thing is the sound in general. It is to different from the custom 5 ... in any case, with the alnico 8.


The sound is fluid, limpid, articulate. Perfect for solos. But the jb coil is too present, we still recognize his note. the overall sound is not enough Paf oriented.

This pup is great it goes without saying. I will have to put an alnico 5 to test.

The alnico 8 in bridge =
Much too aggressive.
The mids are really round but put in front. He bites a ****ing lot.
But in general, the highs are very crystalline / bright.


I never thought a Pickup with DC resistance of 13.2 could be so aggressive.
What I do not like at all With alnico 8 is that in the sound there is nothing organic. Perhaps a little uncontrollable.
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We have to talk about terminology, Micha.

you have two pickups, see the pic you posted earlier.

1 is named the Custom5+: that is 13.2K. Trembucker spaced
1 is the Jb/FS hybrid: That's 15.55K.

You say you installed the JB/FS hybrid 13.2k: which one is that?

That being said:


The Alnico8 will for sure fatten up the mids and boost the output. In a JB/FS hybrid that works great, in a guitar that lacks mids or needs to be as aggressive and tight as possible. I have no idea what that other pickup is, how it sounds like or how it is built. So, no judgements there.

The JB/FS hybrid A5 (15.5K version) should be biting but with a fluid lead, especially in a LP it should work fine.

But, seeing it's 13.2K, with alnico 8, I do think I understand how that works and I think this pickup is like the SH6N but with a fatter midrange (same wire gauge, same ballpark wind, only mag is different).

Options:

- try the jb/fs hybrid 15.5K: I have a strong feeling that would work better for you. There's more copper on the coils so that tames the highs quite a bit (output is not related to DC resistance, so this pickup shouldn't be a lot hotter than the other).
- try this pickup with an alnico II as well as Alnico V. I would recommend the A2 because the 'tone' A2 and A8 yield are fairly similar but the A2 is weaker (i.e.: will make the pickup less aggressive), with a smoother top end. Should solve a lot of issues.
- the A5 will only make the high end worse and the aggression will only stay the same. That's why I believe A2 would work best.
 
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that being said: the way you describe that 13.2K pickup sounds to me like it's based on the Nazgul but with a different magnet.
 
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As you can see, the custom 5 five plus (13.2k - jb/custom 5 hybrid) is the trembucker in my Leduc guitar.

The other one is the Micha pickup (15.55k - jb/fullshred with slugs). He is mounted on the esp guitar.
 
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OK interesting. what are the tonal differences between the two?

(The trembucker should have A LOT more DCR because the bobbin is wider, thus you need more winds: I really really doubt that pickup is a 'true' JB/FS Hybrid!). but what do I know.
 
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orpheo said:
OK interesting. what are the tonal differences between the two?

(The trembucker should have A LOT more DCR because the bobbin is wider, thus you need more winds: I really really doubt that pickup is a 'true' JB/FS Hybrid!). but what do I know.
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I will test the two guitars this afternoon.
I replay my feelings after that.


If the trembucker should have more output because of superior wind because wider, then you are right, is not a true jb/custom 5 hybrid (or full shred.... Whatever).

I have to give the number to MJ and ask what she does exactly.
 
Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.

Micha said:
I will test the two guitars this afternoon.
I replay my feelings after that.


If the trembucker should have more output because of superior wind because wider, then you are right, is not a true jb/custom 5 hybrid (or full shred.... Whatever).

I have to give the number to MJ and ask what she does exactly.
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(output is not related to DC resistance, so this pickup shouldn't be a lot hotter than the other).
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I wrote that a while ago. Output isn't determined by DC resistance alone. Just because a trembucker has more DCR doesn't mean it has more output. it only has a bit more wire but the same amount of turns.
 
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In this video you can see this custom shop trembucker custom 5 plus (JB/Fullshred hybrid + alnico 8) in association with another customshop neck humbucker with alnico 8 magnets.

 
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When you played high gain you had it on the neck pickup.....??? I want to hear the JB/shred on high gain....that’s what it’s is made for.
 
Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.

Gtrjunior said:
Maybe....right now I’m not in a position to buy but if you still have it in a couple months we can talk about it then.
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Thés next days I'll going to mount my custom 5 to see how it sounds comparatively.


This pickup sounds very good and I have to confirm that coil height is very sensitiv.
But it not what I'm searching for.
This custom 5 plus don't sound like a c5 with more harmonics.
It sounds like a jb under steroids. It's clearly a jb with big muscles.
A perfect modern solo pickup.
Very good. But it's to much for me.
 
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Even after adjusting the height, you may find it too much. But my experience with the Alternative 8 showed me that A8 pickups are certainly height sensitive. I started with mine at the same height that I had the Distortion that it replaced set and it was too much. As I backed it off, I hit a sweet spot where it was much better, though still very aggressive.

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Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.

Demanic said:
Even after adjusting the height, you may find it too much. But my experience with the Alternative 8 showed me that A8 pickups are certainly height sensitive. I started with mine at the same height that I had the Distortion that it replaced set and it was too much. As I backed it off, I hit a sweet spot where it was much better, though still very aggressive.

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It's the tone that 's to different from the custom 5.
I like it scooped.
The high mids are to present.
 
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Hello everyone. Being not satisfied with my pickup JB / Fullshred hybrid with alnico 8, I decided to swap the magnet with an alnico 5.
The least i can say is that the change is radical. It's much better.The chords are accurate. The pickup finally sounds like we used to hear. Indeed, with the 8 alnico it was clearly the impression
that it is just the pickup that plays, that amplify.... we do not care. there, with alnico 5, the whole reborn.
It is precise, it flows from source. I let play a good guitarrist with the guitar, besides,
I would have better to let him play him, instead of filming me in pajamas, but anyway ^^Orpheo was right: the JB / fullshred hybrid is designed to match with alnico 5. the pickup is alive.This is not exactly what I'm looking for because of the high mids of JB still too present but no matter,
this pickup has character, punch, harmonics; he is fluid and precise. It is quite another thing that the alnico 8 which
only has for him that its linear aggressivity and mids that beat your face. Really i don't like alnico 8....it's not alive, it's only aggressivity
, without any form subtility.I have always been a fan of alnico 5 but such a difference compared to alnico 8 in favor of alnico5, I would not have expected this.
For me, it is clear that alnico 8 is not made for me, at least in the bridge position (I like it in neck).What surprised me the most is that even the bends in solo sounds much better and directly with the a5 ....
yet the a8 is known for having soft treble. again the alnico 5 suits me much better.



here video with JB/Full shred + alnico 8
 
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and finaly here video with JB/Full shred + alnico 5

I like it very much.


 
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I am very happy to hear that this is finally getting under control. I also feel how you feel about alnico8. I used to like it, but now I'm more into A5. actually, A2, 3, 4 and 5 for different aspects and reasons and tones ;)

but still.. sounded a LOT better with a5 than a8!
 
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