Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
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Lewguitar
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Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
I recommend basing your choice on your tonal preference and not the fingerboard radius. Both will be slightly warmer than alnico 5 Strat pickups.
But if you like brighter, glassier more classic Strat tone go for the raised and staggered APS-1. If you think you'd like a little thicker and slightly warmer tone go for the APS-2.
Lew
I recommend basing your choice on your tonal preference and not the fingerboard radius. Both will be slightly warmer than alnico 5 Strat pickups.
But if you like brighter, glassier more classic Strat tone go for the raised and staggered APS-1. If you think you'd like a little thicker and slightly warmer tone go for the APS-2.
Lew
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strangegrey
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Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
FYI, the fingerboard radius of the american dlx strats are 9.5 I believe
FYI, the fingerboard radius of the american dlx strats are 9.5 I believe
Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
Hey guys,
I forgot to mention that I'll be using these singles along with a EVH '78. So the pots I was going to use will be 500K's. I was tempted to try the SSL-1's for a closer to SRV type tone when on the neck pickup, but im afraid it will be too bright with the 500k pots. I'm guessing the extra mids in the APS-1 will control some of the brightness of the pots, but would I see a big difference in high end between the SSL, and APS when using 500k pots?
Also, how would my number 4 position (bridge/middle) sound with a SSL in the middle position instead of an APS-1? How would the A5 magnet of the SSL and A2 of the EVH blend?
Hey guys,
I forgot to mention that I'll be using these singles along with a EVH '78. So the pots I was going to use will be 500K's. I was tempted to try the SSL-1's for a closer to SRV type tone when on the neck pickup, but im afraid it will be too bright with the 500k pots. I'm guessing the extra mids in the APS-1 will control some of the brightness of the pots, but would I see a big difference in high end between the SSL, and APS when using 500k pots?
Also, how would my number 4 position (bridge/middle) sound with a SSL in the middle position instead of an APS-1? How would the A5 magnet of the SSL and A2 of the EVH blend?
Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
While Im at it, can anyone suggest what volume and tone pot values to use with this setup? EVH in the bridge with either SSL or APS in the neck and middle. 1volume, 1 tone on bridge, 1 tone of neck. I was originally going to use all 500k pots because I'm mainly setting this up for the EVH pickup. If I go with 250k's the the singles would be great, but the EVH would then be lacking? Other way around and the EVH is good, but the singles may be too bright.
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What about a 500k for the Volume, 500k for the humbucker tone knob, and a 250k for the neck tone knob? Would the single coils still be bright because of the 500k volume pot?
While Im at it, can anyone suggest what volume and tone pot values to use with this setup? EVH in the bridge with either SSL or APS in the neck and middle. 1volume, 1 tone on bridge, 1 tone of neck. I was originally going to use all 500k pots because I'm mainly setting this up for the EVH pickup. If I go with 250k's the the singles would be great, but the EVH would then be lacking? Other way around and the EVH is good, but the singles may be too bright.
EDIT:
What about a 500k for the Volume, 500k for the humbucker tone knob, and a 250k for the neck tone knob? Would the single coils still be bright because of the 500k volume pot?
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kylewrt1986
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Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
Well I wouldn't use 500K pots for vintage output type coils, so thats SSL1s, SSL2s, APS1s, APS2s, I'm pretty sure that will sound too bright for what you want..if you're looking for SRV type tone, I'd keep your vintage type pickups wired to a 250K volume at least (u can prob get away with 500K tone if u need to).
I see you're dilema though, reading the post again..and seperate volumes can be a bit of a minefield from what I've heard. Maybe put a higher value capacitor on the single coil tone pot, to try and bleed off more of the treble? Or you could try concentric pots, which I believe allows u a 500K pot for the humbucker and a 250K to wire up the singles too, but you'd need to ask one of the more educated forum members on how exactly that works!
Kyle
Well I wouldn't use 500K pots for vintage output type coils, so thats SSL1s, SSL2s, APS1s, APS2s, I'm pretty sure that will sound too bright for what you want..if you're looking for SRV type tone, I'd keep your vintage type pickups wired to a 250K volume at least (u can prob get away with 500K tone if u need to).
I see you're dilema though, reading the post again..and seperate volumes can be a bit of a minefield from what I've heard. Maybe put a higher value capacitor on the single coil tone pot, to try and bleed off more of the treble? Or you could try concentric pots, which I believe allows u a 500K pot for the humbucker and a 250K to wire up the singles too, but you'd need to ask one of the more educated forum members on how exactly that works!
Kyle
kylewrt1986
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Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
Oh btw if you want SRV type tones, heavier strings help, expecially if you're using vintage output pups like SSLs and APSs
Oh btw if you want SRV type tones, heavier strings help, expecially if you're using vintage output pups like SSLs and APSs
Luke Duke
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Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
Here's what I would do.
But a 500K on the bridge tone control, and the volume and a 250K on the neck/middle tone pot. That will keep you from compromising the bridge pup, and your neck/middle pups will be minimally compromised.
If you went with all 250K it wouldn't be too bad. IIRC VH used 250Ks on the old frankenstrat. Right now I'm using 250Ks in my PRS with good effect. You definitely get a warmer tone.
Luke
Here's what I would do.
But a 500K on the bridge tone control, and the volume and a 250K on the neck/middle tone pot. That will keep you from compromising the bridge pup, and your neck/middle pups will be minimally compromised.
If you went with all 250K it wouldn't be too bad. IIRC VH used 250Ks on the old frankenstrat. Right now I'm using 250Ks in my PRS with good effect. You definitely get a warmer tone.
Luke
Luke Duke
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Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
You'll have to work up a different circuit, or look it up. Shouldn't be too difficult. Artie can help you, I can help if I can look at something or draw it out.
Luke
The thing you run into is that most strat wiring schemes use only one cap.tone said:
You'll have to work up a different circuit, or look it up. Shouldn't be too difficult. Artie can help you, I can help if I can look at something or draw it out.
Luke
ratherdashing
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Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
Check this thread out for an idea on solving this problem:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=69706
tone said:
Check this thread out for an idea on solving this problem:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=69706
Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
I'm going to use this schematic.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/hum_2sing_vol_2tone_-w-spl.html
Luke Duke said:
I'm going to use this schematic.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/hum_2sing_vol_2tone_-w-spl.html
strangegrey
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Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
The first red/black and white frankenstrat was simply the black one covered with a coat of red paint (with some black and white exposed by tape)....Since EVH was maniacal about other people using his stripes, he wanted to constantly change...eventually the red/black and white became a trademark of his...and he ended up doing up his various kramers that way.
As for pots, I was always under the impression that the first frankenstrats were 250k pots...but I, nor anyone else around here, is an expert on EVH's gear. He's contradicted himself in interviews more time than your average politician from arkansas...
The first red/black and white frankenstrat was simply the black one covered with a coat of red paint (with some black and white exposed by tape)....Since EVH was maniacal about other people using his stripes, he wanted to constantly change...eventually the red/black and white became a trademark of his...and he ended up doing up his various kramers that way.
As for pots, I was always under the impression that the first frankenstrats were 250k pots...but I, nor anyone else around here, is an expert on EVH's gear. He's contradicted himself in interviews more time than your average politician from arkansas...
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: Am DLX strat, APS-1 or APS-2?
LMAO
This is so true, all of it!
I'm definitely not a VH head, or anything resembling one. But my guess is that Ed used what he had, I've heard that he had lots of strats taken apart. If that were true the chances of there being a 250K in there are more likely I'd think.
Luke
strangegrey said:
LMAO
This is so true, all of it!
I'm definitely not a VH head, or anything resembling one. But my guess is that Ed used what he had, I've heard that he had lots of strats taken apart. If that were true the chances of there being a 250K in there are more likely I'd think.
Luke
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