Amplifiers at NAMM...

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I was impressed by one or two, including Mark Sampson's latest: Star Amps. But for the most part, it seemed that most amp manufacturers are going for that awful cliched overdriven tone that lets anyone sound like a "Bagful of Angry Bumble Bees"!

Such a cliched cornball tone...but 90% of the amps there were dialed in for just that one tone. I guess it's what sells. Even Rick Derringer, who was demoing Warrior Guitars, had that "Bagful of Angry Bumble Bees" tone...

Yuck!

The amp I probably enjoyed playing through the most was the one being endorsed by Bill Kirchen: the Talos http://talosinstruments.com/.

Nothing fancy...just great great tone!

At the Eminence speakers booth we ran into Smitty who was showcasing his Bluestar amp line. Also very nice amps and great vintage blackface tone. His amps sounded very familiar to me and were very comfortable for me to play through because they reminded me so much of my own modified blackface Fenders!

When Smitty, Curly and I got down to discussing the Bluestar amps it turned out that Smitty had in fact designed his amps around the same mods that my brother Bruce, John (Stratdeluxer) and I have all been doing to our Fender blackface amps for many years.

It was great to spend a little time with Mark Sampson! I was walking with Curly and he goes: "Hey...there's Mark Sampson!" I turned around and there he was...looking a little neglected and maybe underfinanced but he was showing off his new Star Amps.

I have to say the tone was first rate! But the look of Mark's new line is a little to plain.

IMO, Mark should go back to the Vox/Matchless look and just put his own name on his new amps. They sound spectacular but look very ordinary.

Seemed like the buzz at the show was for the new 65 amps being demoed by Sheryl Crow guitarist...whatshisname. Sorry...can't remember his name!

But the 65's were the most talked about amps at the show. I only listened to them...didn't play them. But they seemed to go from a blackface Fender tone to that "Bagful of Angry Bumblebees" tone with ease.

Unfortunately, they were being demoed to often with that "Bagful of Angry Bumblebees" tone that I find so cliched and corny. Just not my "bag" I guess...it's a tone that robs a player of any individuality, IMO, and makes every player who has a few hot licks sound the same.

Lew
 
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drew_half_empty said:
what about the new fender, the prosonic or whatever it's called

you try it?

Nope. The Fender booth was so crowded and so noisy it was hard to hear anything! Lew
 
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Is the Prosonic new?

anyway, we didn't spend much time in Fender's display - it was very very loud in there, and someone else was playing one of the amps

we only stopped to pay homage to Jeff Beck's old tele :)
 
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Curly said:
Is the Prosonic new?

anyway, we didn't spend much time in Fender's display - it was very very loud in there, and someone else was playing one of the amps

we only stopped to pay homage to Jeff Beck's old tele :)

Yeah! That was way cool! I still don't know for certain whether we were paying homage to Jeff's old Esquire or to a breathtakingly accurate clone of it though. It was an Esquire though...no neck pickup. Looked about 500 years old! Lew
 
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Seemed like the buzz at the show was for the new 65 amps being demoed by Sheryl Crow guitarist...what'shisname. Sorry...can't remember his name!

Pete Stroud?
 
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STRATDELUXER97 said:
Pete Stroud?
yup
65 Amps is Peter Stroud and Dan Boul, plus several friends and consultants, like Don Butler and Mercury Magnetics
 
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Curly said:
yup
65 Amps is Peter Stroud and Dan Boul, plus several friends and consultants, like Don Butler and Mercury Magnetics

He's a tasty player and I do have some of Cheryl Crowes music...
 
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Richie Sambora is using the 65's on tour I believe, along with Diezel amps. Very cool sounding amps.

Anything new from Marshall?
 
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Hey Lew, didn't know you were at NAMM!!! Cool!

The new Fender amp is the SuperSonic.

The clean channel is switchable from vibro to blackface, and the drive channel is lifted from the 90's prosonic.

Yes, is does the bagful of bumblebees tone, but, if you're into heavy OD like me, it sounds DAMN good. It definately fills a gap in the Fender amp product line, and does so affordably, and sounding great. Very versatile amp.

Other awesome amps I saw:

Bogner Duende. Low 18 watt 1x12 combo. Very classy, jazzy, low gain amp.

Orange Rockerverb: its the Emo amp of choice right now, but I dig the simplicity. The clean channel has ONE knob. Volume. That's it. I like that.

CAE OD-100 head: Nick Sterling was playing this. And GOD DAMN, that thing sounded amazing. That kid has got killer tone...and about $10,000 worth of botique gear to get it by.

Also managed to score a Maxon AD999 delay pedal at the show, and I'm LOVING it. Love that analog delay tone!
 
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Lew,

i totally agree with you on the Hord of Bumble bees or whatever you called it.

Did you check out the new VHT Deliverance amp?? i getting that one cause it is more old plexi style to Halen tone.

i dont know why everyone is looking for that super dooper compressed sound. maybe they should just save their money and go for SS, cause that is what it sounds like when you over compress the tubes anyway. Jeepers
 
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tone? said:
Lew,

i totally agree with you on the Hord of Bumble bees or whatever you called it.

Did you check out the new VHT Deliverance amp?? i getting that one cause it is more old plexi style to Halen tone.

i dont know why everyone is looking for that super dooper compressed sound. maybe they should just save their money and go for SS, cause that is what it sounds like when you over compress the tubes anyway. Jeepers

Didn't try the VHT's although I've tried them in music stores and found them to be high quality amps. Very articulate. with great note separation.."toothy" is how I've heard them described although that could've been because of the Pit Bull thing. Still, "toothy" and also articulate is how I'd describe the VHT's I've tried too. Seemed like they would really project well onstage.

I've really fallen in love with the softer and less in your face cathode bias style tone though. Like my old tweed Fenders and my Matchless amps are biased. It's a more touch sensitive tone and you don't need a ton of distortion to get sustain or to squeeze the notes out when you're soloing.

The Talos amp and Mark Sampson's Star amps are cathode biased amps too.

Most amps are what's called "fixed bias", those are the ones you have to reset the bias everytime you change the output tubes or tube rectifier. All blackface Fenders and Marshalls are fixed bias. It's a louder, tighter, cleaner tone...like an alnico 5 magnet PAF style pickup.

Cathode biased amps don't require resetting of the bias when you change your output tubes...in fact, you can't adjust the bias of a cathode biased amps without altering the circuit itself. The tone reminds me of an alnico 2 PAF style pickup: looser bass, creamier highs, pluckier/chewier mids. You can shape the tone with your pick more easily...or at least I can.

These are generalizations of course...YMMV as they say.

Lew
 
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Hey, Lew

wish I could've been there...
the high gain stuff is getting pretty boring overall....
I talked with Greg V out at Bogner about the Duende. He said that it was capable of tweed, ampeg, and brownface tones, and actually has pretty high headroom if you care to set it that way. very much an "americana" type of amp.... very swampy, but not really gainy. depending on what version you get, you can expect a price tag somewhere around $2500. Its Class A, with 2 6v6 tubes, and a lush reverb and trem. Sounds pretty cool!

Randy
 
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Bagful of angry bumblebees? I wonder if the old-coots during the time of Clapton called his tone that:laugh2: (just razzin' Lew!)

Anyway, I would expect those Talos amps to sound great! At $3,000 to $4,000 I would expect them to wipe my behind when I'm going #2 also!:laugh2:
 
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STRATDELUXER97 said:
He's a tasty player and I do have some of Cheryl Crowes music...

Speaking of Tasty......... Cheryl Crow.... If Only I could ride a Bike well:smokin:
 
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I've played the 65 amps London at reasonable volumes and it definitely doesn't get that swarm of bees tone, more like blackface fender to vintage lightly overdriven plexi.

I'd love to play an OD-50 one day, looks like a pretty cool amp.
 
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thier coming to get you lew

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