Antiquity IIs insanely microphonic

[Lewguitar]

Re: Antiquity IIs insanely microphonic

Interesting... in very small venues I have actually been known to turn my cabinet to face the back wall so I can turn it up! My rig just doesn't get it's tone till it's almost halfway up, and you'd have to hold me at gunpoint to get me to use anything else.

Some club owners would be happy to hold you at gunpoint if you're playing too loudly...just before they throw your butt out of the place.

Only gigs I've ever done where I had my amp in front of me, facing me, were at church where we had to play at extremely low volumes and everything ran through the PA.

But at a bar? Never.

 

[2ndhandband]

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Some club owners would be happy to hold you at gunpoint if you're playing too loudly...just before they throw your butt out of the place.

Only gigs I've ever done where I had my amp in front of me, facing me, was at church where we had to play at extremely low volumes and everything rain through the PA.

But at a bar? Never.

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Haha that is one reason I use a 22 watt head. I can get the tubes working without blowing anybody's brains out. But to be honest it's been years since I've played dive bars; I'm usually in places where I can turn it up a little because the PA is going to be louder than me anyway. If the place is REALLY small, I'll turn my cabinets to face the back wall and get my stage level in the monitor.

Regarding your last comment... are you not miced into the house for every gig?!

 

[jeremy]

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ive struggled with getting the tone i want at a reasonable volume so ended up with a bunch of amps ( 8w, 12w, 18w, 22w, 26w, 30w, 35w, and 85w) and pairing speakers to get the tone i like at various volume. mostly tweed and bf fender type amps but some other custom build stuff and a vox/bruno. id grab whatever amp i think will suit the room and run with that. recently i got an eminence maverick speaker and since then ive used my '66 deluxe reverb on everything. being able to adjust the sensitivity of the speaker to tame the volume of the amp at the very end of the chain has been working very well for me. im probably only mic'd at half my gigs. sometimes due to me being loud enough that they wont use the mic anyway and sometimes cause its a bar

 

[2ndhandband]

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ive struggled with getting the tone i want at a reasonable volume so ended up with a bunch of amps ( 8w, 12w, 18w, 22w, 26w, 30w, 35w, and 85w) and pairing speakers to get the tone i like at various volume. mostly tweed and bf fender type amps but some other custom build stuff and a vox/bruno. id grab whatever amp i think will suit the room and run with that. recently i got an eminence maverick speaker and since then ive used my '66 deluxe reverb on everything. being able to adjust the sensitivity of the speaker to tame the volume of the amp at the very end of the chain has been working very well for me

I have the A rig and the B rig. The B rig is my 22 watt Supersonic head into a 4x12 Marshall cab with vintage G12-80s in it (I WILL NOT use any other speaker) and a six space rack with effects and stuff. The A rig is still built around the Supersonic and 4x12, it a full-on WDW triamp rig. Instead of the little rack I bring a 12 space rollaway with a stereo power amp that drives two 1x12s for stereo FX, a custom-built preamp for some extra tones, and my effects. That rig only comes out if I have room onstage for it and a soundman I trust to not screw things up out front.

 

[2ndhandband]

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im probably only mic'd at half my gigs. sometimes due to me being loud enough that they wont use the mic anyway and sometimes cause its a bar

I absolutely hate not being in the house. I don't want to have think about my level out front... that's why you have soundmen.

 

[Lewguitar]

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Haha that is one reason I use a 22 watt head. I can get the tubes working without blowing anybody's brains out. But to be honest it's been years since I've played dive bars; I'm usually in places where I can turn it up a little because the PA is going to be louder than me anyway. If the place is REALLY small, I'll turn my cabinets to face the back wall and get my stage level in the monitor.

Regarding your last comment... are you not miced into the house for every gig?!

Depends. At a jam? rarely. But at church or in a nice room with a stage the sound person does usually stick a mic in front of my amp. I even have a little cross of tape to show him or her where to place the mic. I like it off towards the edge and never pointed right at the middle of the speaker.

I use small amps too, BTW. At home I play through my Mustang III but on rock and blues gigs I tend to go with a 22 watt Deluxe Reverb or a Princeton Reverb modded for a 12" speaker. Old blackface amps from the 60's.

 

[2ndhandband]

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Depends. At a jam? rarely. But at church or in a nice room with a stage the sound person does usually stick a mic in front of my amp. I even have a little cross of tape to show him or her where to place the mic. I like it off towards the edge and never pointed right at the middle of the speaker.

I use small amps too, BTW. At home I play through my Mustang III but on rock and blues gigs I tend to go with a 22 watt Deluxe Reverb or a Princeton Reverb modded for a 12" speaker. Old blackface amps from the 60's.

Well, I'm going to throw out there that if the soundman does not know better than to mic the center of your speaker you should fire him and get a new one... that's instrument micing 101. that said i also use tape so there's no ambiguity and I get the same thing every time. I bring my own mics, too. Sennheiser 609s. For the Journey tribute I'm filling in with I'm bringing the A rig with the stereo FX; it's all nice rooms with decent stages.

At home I use the iRig. :27:

 

[2ndhandband]

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Well, my pickups are on the way to Cali. Kinda hoping I get 'em back while I'm still working this gig but not counting on it. I really wanna get this guitar on a stage.

 

[2ndhandband]

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Well, my pickups are on the way to Cali. Kinda hoping I get 'em back while I'm still working this gig but not counting on it. I really wanna get this guitar on a stage.

OK, THAT was funny... the forum software blanked out the word "counting" and I couldn't figure out why at first. Turns out I left out the O...

 

[jeremy]

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I absolutely hate not being in the house. I don't want to have think about my level out front... that's why you have soundmen.

i much prefer having a GOOD sound guy but that is sure not always the case. there are bar rooms i play frequently and i can dial in the sound quickly, do a sound check, adjust and be good. i record gigs with two condensers to digital 2 track when i can so i get a good snapshot of how the mix sits in a room and it sounds just fine. obviously this is not always the case but you get used to working around less than perfect situations when confronted with them often enough. my biggest problem is the damn bass player turning up.

 

[2ndhandband]

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i much prefer having a GOOD sound guy but that is sure not always the case. there are bar rooms i play frequently and i can dial in the sound quickly, do a sound check, adjust and be good. i record gigs with two condensers to digital 2 track when i can so i get a good snapshot of how the mix sits in a room and it sounds just fine. obviously this is not always the case but you get used to working around less than perfect situations when confronted with them often enough. my biggest problem is the damn bass player turning up.

That always seems to be the case though, doesn't it? When everyone is just blowing out into the house you have everybody always trying to sneak their level up a little and bass players (contrary to popular belief) are the worst offenders. Much better for it all to be controlled at FOH. Everybody sets his or her level ONCE and after that it's the soundman's problem.

 

[jeremy]

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yep. the biggest issue is the space it takes bass frequencies to develop, what is loud on stage is LOUD off the stage.

a good sound guy can take a mediocre band and make them sound great, a poor sound guy can take a great band and make them sound bad, a neglectful sound guy isnt much better than setting up the sound yourself. believe me, i love a good sound guy and know a few, but there are far too few of them out there

 

[2ndhandband]

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yep. the biggest issue is the space it takes bass frequencies to develop, what is loud on stage is LOUD off the stage.

a good sound guy can take a mediocre band and make them sound great, a poor sound guy can take a great band and make them sound bad, a neglectful sound guy isnt much better than setting up the sound yourself. believe me, i love a good sound guy and know a few, but there are far too few of them out there

I know... a lot of clubs in my area have house sound and you never know what the engineer will be like. If the gig pays enough it's best to contract a guy to come out and run it; I know a number of them. If not I run out front regularly and listen so I can punch the house guy in the balls if he's making us sound bad. The band I'm filling in with for the next two months contracts the sound from a regional production company I used to mix for, and the young woman who is mixing the shows is someone I trained so I feel pretty good about it.

 

[chadd]

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I've been known to do that, depending on the stage. Sometimes that can serve for stage sound as well if the monitors leave something to be desired. But I'm not sure what you mean about the cabling... are you not wireless?

I use a head, rack and cab, so putting the whole thing in front of me like Mincer said, just isn't an option.

 

[2ndhandband]

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I use a head, rack and cab, so putting the whole thing in front of me like Mincer said, just isn't an option.

Oh, I get you. I'm the same way; my A rig eats some real estate! I can't imagine wanting to put your rig in front of you anyway... kind of an obstruction, no?

 

[thebingopete]

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Oh wah. You should have opted for the potted version. Oh well. Go to the freekin grocery store. Grab a block of parafin. Get a double boiler going in the kitchen and melt the wax. Then dip the pups for 20mins or so. Watch a YouTube video on it. It's the easiest upgrade to do. Some vintage methods became obsolete for a reason.

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[Mincer]

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Yeah, my idea comes from an ease of getting musical feedback whenever I want, keeping stage volume low, my ears not ringing at the end of the night, and having a good soundperson. Oh, and my aversion to carrying a heavier setup.