Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

took the test
couldn't discern a measurable difference

while some may have sounded different as in the extra note in clip2 of the first section
nothing worth noting

Herm has better ears than mine
 
Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Where can I get thoese russian caps?

Found them!
 
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Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Dammit, I read what Hermetico thought of each cap, and now I can't help being influenced by that. So it's not a blind test any more for me.


Anyway, I can notice differences in some of the clips, but they are small enough that they could probably be explained by differences in the tolerances of the different capacitors: eg some are not exactly the stated 0.022uF.

Also, the the differences in the playing could be clouding the issue; it is impossible for a human to get exactly the same pick attack and strength etc for each clip, and this could have a noticeable effect, and if the tester (the guy playing/recording the clips) knows which cap he is using, this could influence his opinion, and have a subtle effect on his playing.

The only way to make the test truly objective would be to either have a machine that can pick the strings with exactly the same force, speed and angle time after time, or somehow wire up the guitar with multiple outputs, with one cap on each output and record all the caps at the same time in one take.

Edit: Also, because you know all the clips are recorded with different caps, you are expecting/hoping to hear a difference. So the experiment should be done where some of the clips actually use the same caps - so if you think you can hear a difference there it's obviously something other than the cap causing it.

Another edit: Just goes to show that one man's 'harsh' is another man's 'bright.' I actually liked 7 best in both clean rhythm and distorted.
 
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Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Just to clarify:

I didn't say I couldn't hear a difference, I said I can hear a difference, but I'm not convinced that it's caused only by the type of cap rather than some of the other possible factors.

Edit: to clarify even further: If someone played the same clip 8 times with the same capacitor, there would be differences. Which might (or might not) be bigger than the differences caused by the capacitors, depending on how consistent the guitarist was able to be with his playing.
 
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Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Wait this test is in different guitars?

Can somebody re-post the link everybody is talking about?
 
Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

i think this is one for the
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Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

Well I replaced my old green cap in my kramer with a orange drop and I can tell a difference for sure!!!! more brighter and top end and not that muffled tone I had.
 
Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

The forum should have the biohazard sign as an option for threads like this; this must be hazardous to one's health somehow!
 
Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

I don't dislike them, yet. I'm getting some buzz, but it could be my solders. I'll check the schematic and sort it out. They are good though, too good. The old Ceramic Discs Caps are the best -- because they are bad. Let me explain. They aren't perfect. They let through lots of highs and harmonics that the new one don't. But because of this imperfection, they sound great. I just checked the caps on my mid 70's Paul and mid 60's Bobkat. Both sound great and they both have the Pancake Caps. If you can find 'em get 'em. If not, Orange Drops are one of the best modern caps -- though quite a bit larger. Make sure you're routed with room to spare.

Here's a 2 part article from Premier Guitar that hipped me to the wonders of tone cap upgrades. Most edifying. Check 'em out . . .

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2010/Apr/Tone_Capacitors_for_Stratocasters_Part_1.aspx


http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2010/May/Tone_Capacitors_for_Stratocasters_Part_2.aspx




FuelGTRX said:
My Les Paul Standard has Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors in it. I bought it used like that. Right now I have a Pearly Gates in the bridge position and an Alnico II Pro in the neck position. Recently I installed a Pearly Gates in my strat. I wired it up with 500K pots with a typical .022 disc cap. Now I know guitars are going to sound different from each other, but the PG in the strat has considerably more output and is a bit more open sounding. Could the Orange Drops be choking the sound of my Les Paul a bit? I'm not sure what value they are, the coding on the side of them does not list the rating.
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Re: Anyone NOT like Sprauge Orange Drop capacitors?

I did the "buy 50 different caps and try them all" test.
I am in the paper in oil camp. I agree the difference is slight, but it is there. And I am stone deaf in one ear and don't believe in the tooth fairy. :knockedou
Next choice would be NOS ceramic.

I also use no-load tone pots in all of my guitars.

And if a humbucker is too bright I won't hesitate to use 250K pots on it.
 
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