Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
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Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
After I played it, I felt an overwhelming urge to buy leather pants, smash my car into a tree, and verbally abuse a flight attendant.
After I played it, I felt an overwhelming urge to buy leather pants, smash my car into a tree, and verbally abuse a flight attendant.
P.A.Foholic
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Elfunkenstein
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frankfalbo
In Fluence Y'all
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
They've been shipping, so someone is bound to come around with a review. I just saw Yngwie play them live and they sounded pretty awesome.
They've been shipping, so someone is bound to come around with a review. I just saw Yngwie play them live and they sounded pretty awesome.
Firechicken
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Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
Hahaha LOL thats good stuff right there. It's actually funny you mention that, because it's quite funny to watch how we behave as guitarists, to anyone here watch what you do next time you buy a signature guitar or play one, or watch a youtube vid of someone reviewing a les paul, or a strat ect and the type of playing they will do as soon as they pick up the guitar many times will reflect what we see that particular guitar's sound and use in the guitar world should be played like and it'll come up in the style of many artists that use those guitars haha, it's quite funny if you notice it, hell I do it and catch myself.
Other day I went to my local guitar store looking for those Customs to hear in a guitar and decided I'd try out a nice SG. Guess what the first thing I started to play was on that SG?? any guesses? LOL you guessed it, good Old Angus rock and roll train and back in black started to come out right away.
It's just funny when you actually catch youself doing it.
Mike.
Hahaha LOL thats good stuff right there. It's actually funny you mention that, because it's quite funny to watch how we behave as guitarists, to anyone here watch what you do next time you buy a signature guitar or play one, or watch a youtube vid of someone reviewing a les paul, or a strat ect and the type of playing they will do as soon as they pick up the guitar many times will reflect what we see that particular guitar's sound and use in the guitar world should be played like and it'll come up in the style of many artists that use those guitars haha, it's quite funny if you notice it, hell I do it and catch myself.
Other day I went to my local guitar store looking for those Customs to hear in a guitar and decided I'd try out a nice SG. Guess what the first thing I started to play was on that SG?? any guesses? LOL you guessed it, good Old Angus rock and roll train and back in black started to come out right away.
It's just funny when you actually catch youself doing it.
Mike.
UberMetalDood
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Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
It is funny this thread popped up because I was looking at the fury on SD yesterday and thought it sounded kind of arrogant that SD states "When Yngwie J. Malmsteen set out on a quest to bring his tone to a higher level, he turned to Seymour Duncan."
I think Dimarzio did a fabulous job creating the Hs2 and Hs3 and Yjm pickups. If you heard them before out of the neoclassical context or in a different guitar then you probably thought they were great pickups. I love SD pickups but I wouldnt call them superior to Dimarzio. Its just my observation. Im not calling SD out on it.
It is funny this thread popped up because I was looking at the fury on SD yesterday and thought it sounded kind of arrogant that SD states "When Yngwie J. Malmsteen set out on a quest to bring his tone to a higher level, he turned to Seymour Duncan."
I think Dimarzio did a fabulous job creating the Hs2 and Hs3 and Yjm pickups. If you heard them before out of the neoclassical context or in a different guitar then you probably thought they were great pickups. I love SD pickups but I wouldnt call them superior to Dimarzio. Its just my observation. Im not calling SD out on it.
mustaine-who?
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Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
Ever heard of marketing strategies? Or sales schpeals?
What should they say?
"Seymour Duncan now proudly offers a single coil pick up NO BETTER than the competition...has no properties or attributes that compell you the buyer to buy our product versus the previous offering...Hell, we think its quite average ourselves..."
Ever heard of marketing strategies? Or sales schpeals?
What should they say?
"Seymour Duncan now proudly offers a single coil pick up NO BETTER than the competition...has no properties or attributes that compell you the buyer to buy our product versus the previous offering...Hell, we think its quite average ourselves..."
frankfalbo
In Fluence Y'all
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
Funny thing is, if you knew Yngwie, and you worked here throughout the entire development process, you would realize that is an entirely true and accurate statement.
If I wanted to turn the entire situation around, how would you feel if you worked really hard on something that you knew was genuinely more satisfying to an artist, and someone (who is not that artist) told you they thought you sounded arrogant? :laugh2:
Funny thing is, if you knew Yngwie, and you worked here throughout the entire development process, you would realize that is an entirely true and accurate statement.
If I wanted to turn the entire situation around, how would you feel if you worked really hard on something that you knew was genuinely more satisfying to an artist, and someone (who is not that artist) told you they thought you sounded arrogant? :laugh2:
UberMetalDood
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Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
What is with the laughing face? Are you trying to laugh at me for having an opinion on something? To answer your stupid question then my answer would be yes if the artist came off as if he was superior to everyone or implied that other artists could not achieve that level.
Please note that I said "kind of arrogant." I did not expressly say it to make it a debatable point. I did not take anything away from the time and effort invested in it and I expressly said that I was not calling SD out on it. Im sorry if I hurt your feelings by saying so but I never made it a big deal now did I?
Read on Dimarzios site and tell me where they try to come off as superior pickup builders or "higher level" than SD. They dont because they have class. To respond to Mustain who then you should figure out why SD needs to take the pedestal in marketing when they are already the most successful. I am not going to apologize for having an opinion. Take it for what its worth or leave it.
What is with the laughing face? Are you trying to laugh at me for having an opinion on something? To answer your stupid question then my answer would be yes if the artist came off as if he was superior to everyone or implied that other artists could not achieve that level.
Please note that I said "kind of arrogant." I did not expressly say it to make it a debatable point. I did not take anything away from the time and effort invested in it and I expressly said that I was not calling SD out on it. Im sorry if I hurt your feelings by saying so but I never made it a big deal now did I?
Read on Dimarzios site and tell me where they try to come off as superior pickup builders or "higher level" than SD. They dont because they have class. To respond to Mustain who then you should figure out why SD needs to take the pedestal in marketing when they are already the most successful. I am not going to apologize for having an opinion. Take it for what its worth or leave it.
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
It is a line of hype. If Yngwie was "serious about tone" with Dimarzio he could have played the Area series of pickups, and of which sound 1000 times better than the HS-3s. Duncan gave him more money bottom line.
It is a line of hype. If Yngwie was "serious about tone" with Dimarzio he could have played the Area series of pickups, and of which sound 1000 times better than the HS-3s. Duncan gave him more money bottom line.
Kam
Shaftologist
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
Jesus, dude, relax. They're allowed to market their products. They're also allowed to take a bit of pride in their work. If I put a tonne of time and effort into building something I'm proud of I'd probably sound pretty arrogant too.
Jesus, dude, relax. They're allowed to market their products. They're also allowed to take a bit of pride in their work. If I put a tonne of time and effort into building something I'm proud of I'd probably sound pretty arrogant too.
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frankfalbo
In Fluence Y'all
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
The laughing face means my post is light hearted and should not have caused you such stress. I understood your original post to be mild, and I did in fact read that you were not trying to call us out.
Again, I'm sorry if it offends you that we designed a pickup that is more pleasing to an artist than something they were using previously. We recently did the same thing for Mick Thomson, but quite honestly, Seymour and co. have been doing exactly that for over 35 years. Using phrases like "higher level" or "next level" seems very honest and understated to me.
The laughing face means my post is light hearted and should not have caused you such stress. I understood your original post to be mild, and I did in fact read that you were not trying to call us out.
Again, I'm sorry if it offends you that we designed a pickup that is more pleasing to an artist than something they were using previously. We recently did the same thing for Mick Thomson, but quite honestly, Seymour and co. have been doing exactly that for over 35 years. Using phrases like "higher level" or "next level" seems very honest and understated to me.
This is incorrect and inappropriate. We really have done nothing to deserve this kind of cynicism other than make a cool new pickup. I truly wish everyone well, and some cynicism can never be diffused.
Evan Skopp
SDUGF Founder
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
Here's the real deal from someone who knows this story from the very first moments it started. Yngwie didn't have a lot of input into the pickups he used previously. He was fairly young both in age and in his career when he made his previous pickup choice. At that time, his big concern was hum canceling and his old pickups were hum free.
In the case of his Seymour Duncan pickups, he was intimately involved in the development process from the very beginning. There were many revs that went back and forth and many minor tweaks. According to Yngwie, he had never been this involved in voicing his pickups. And he never knew these possibilities existed.
Not only was he was dialing in the tone, but also the feel. Put tone aside for a moment. He was very specific about the way the pickup needed to behave under his fingers. He wanted his picked notes and his hammer-ons and pull-offs to sound nearly identical. He had never before dealt with that challenge in pickup design. He has a style that he calls "legato-staccato," and it has to sound the same above and below the 12th fret. That was something he didn't have in his previous pickups, but we were able to dial it in.
And then there is the tone. He wanted something hotter than vintage Fender, but still in the Strat territory. And the neck and bridge pickups had to cover different tonal challenges. With his previous pickups, the neck and bridge were pretty much the same pickup but with a different pole piece stagger. With the YJM Furys, they have totally different magnet structures.
Finally, there was Yngwie's involvement in the process. I think most of you would be very surprised to know how "into" this process he was. During the development cycle, he and I would often talk several times a day to dial in very specific frequencies or "feel" considerations. He often told me how excited he was to be involved in this project. Once he called me to make sure that an overnight shipment was going to be at his mailbox before 10:00 that morning and he said, "Evan, you have no idea how excited I am about all this. I'm standing at the mailbox right now with a hot soldering iron in my hand." I loved that one. And yes, he did all the pickup installations and testing himself. No roadies or techs.
Was our ad copy a little arrogant? Perhaps. But to say that Yngwie's switch to Seymour Duncan was simply a matter of money is not only cynical, it's wrong.
I'll end this post with this thought. Yngwie has a reputation as a bit of a tyrant who is prone to bad behavior. I know this. And he knows it too. But that's not the Yngwie I've dealt with the last 18 months. He has always been a perfect gentleman with me and with everyone I've seen him talk with -- even at the NAMM show when he's being mobbed. He's extremely intelligent and has a strong interest in politics, literature and film. He wound pickups to raise money for Haiti. He has a loving wife and a adolescent son who appears to me to be a genius. And working with him on this project has been a pleasure and one of the highlights of my career.
I've never written this down before, but now seemed like a good time. Thanks for reading.
Here's the real deal from someone who knows this story from the very first moments it started. Yngwie didn't have a lot of input into the pickups he used previously. He was fairly young both in age and in his career when he made his previous pickup choice. At that time, his big concern was hum canceling and his old pickups were hum free.
In the case of his Seymour Duncan pickups, he was intimately involved in the development process from the very beginning. There were many revs that went back and forth and many minor tweaks. According to Yngwie, he had never been this involved in voicing his pickups. And he never knew these possibilities existed.
Not only was he was dialing in the tone, but also the feel. Put tone aside for a moment. He was very specific about the way the pickup needed to behave under his fingers. He wanted his picked notes and his hammer-ons and pull-offs to sound nearly identical. He had never before dealt with that challenge in pickup design. He has a style that he calls "legato-staccato," and it has to sound the same above and below the 12th fret. That was something he didn't have in his previous pickups, but we were able to dial it in.
And then there is the tone. He wanted something hotter than vintage Fender, but still in the Strat territory. And the neck and bridge pickups had to cover different tonal challenges. With his previous pickups, the neck and bridge were pretty much the same pickup but with a different pole piece stagger. With the YJM Furys, they have totally different magnet structures.
Finally, there was Yngwie's involvement in the process. I think most of you would be very surprised to know how "into" this process he was. During the development cycle, he and I would often talk several times a day to dial in very specific frequencies or "feel" considerations. He often told me how excited he was to be involved in this project. Once he called me to make sure that an overnight shipment was going to be at his mailbox before 10:00 that morning and he said, "Evan, you have no idea how excited I am about all this. I'm standing at the mailbox right now with a hot soldering iron in my hand." I loved that one. And yes, he did all the pickup installations and testing himself. No roadies or techs.
Was our ad copy a little arrogant? Perhaps. But to say that Yngwie's switch to Seymour Duncan was simply a matter of money is not only cynical, it's wrong.
I'll end this post with this thought. Yngwie has a reputation as a bit of a tyrant who is prone to bad behavior. I know this. And he knows it too. But that's not the Yngwie I've dealt with the last 18 months. He has always been a perfect gentleman with me and with everyone I've seen him talk with -- even at the NAMM show when he's being mobbed. He's extremely intelligent and has a strong interest in politics, literature and film. He wound pickups to raise money for Haiti. He has a loving wife and a adolescent son who appears to me to be a genius. And working with him on this project has been a pleasure and one of the highlights of my career.
I've never written this down before, but now seemed like a good time. Thanks for reading.
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
I wasn't banging on Duncan, unless Yngwie had some personal problem with Dimarzio there would be no reason to leave just to get a quality pickup made as they make Fantastic noiseless pickups already. Just because Yngwie was looking for the highest bidder doesn't make Duncan a bad guy, if he was having problems with Dimarzio and left for other reasons then that is a different story.
I wasn't banging on Duncan, unless Yngwie had some personal problem with Dimarzio there would be no reason to leave just to get a quality pickup made as they make Fantastic noiseless pickups already. Just because Yngwie was looking for the highest bidder doesn't make Duncan a bad guy, if he was having problems with Dimarzio and left for other reasons then that is a different story.
UberMetalDood
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Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
Thank you for the explanation and it was a very interesting read. Some people need to realize I was not trying to call out SD on it. What I should have said was that the statement could be perceived as a bit arrogant. It is not a big deal and as I stated I didnt make it so.
I think it is great that Yngwie is changin his sound because personally I think he needs to make some changes. His last album was not epic but a step in the right direction I think. He needs to realize the guitar noodling without hugely strong sense of rhythm is not the modern thing. I hope he has a great new sound and new approach to making music.
Futhermore it sounds like the Fury pickups will be a great success. I am looking forward to playing them. I want to hear them plugged straight into a Marshall.
All due respect to SD. I think it is a great company and I love the pickups. My opinion is just an observation and in no way a knock against the company. If anyone thinks it was then they need to learn how to read. Some of you give yourselves a lot of credit but I assure you it takes a lot more than your petty comments to get me stressed out.
Please carry on and thanks again for the excellent explanation.
Thank you for the explanation and it was a very interesting read. Some people need to realize I was not trying to call out SD on it. What I should have said was that the statement could be perceived as a bit arrogant. It is not a big deal and as I stated I didnt make it so.
I think it is great that Yngwie is changin his sound because personally I think he needs to make some changes. His last album was not epic but a step in the right direction I think. He needs to realize the guitar noodling without hugely strong sense of rhythm is not the modern thing. I hope he has a great new sound and new approach to making music.
Futhermore it sounds like the Fury pickups will be a great success. I am looking forward to playing them. I want to hear them plugged straight into a Marshall.
All due respect to SD. I think it is a great company and I love the pickups. My opinion is just an observation and in no way a knock against the company. If anyone thinks it was then they need to learn how to read. Some of you give yourselves a lot of credit but I assure you it takes a lot more than your petty comments to get me stressed out.
Please carry on and thanks again for the excellent explanation.
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
Well, if you can get something more to your liking (not better) why not? Guitar players are a picky bunch in general. If you have a Strat but like Les Pauls better why not play a Les Paul? That does not mean Fender makes crappy instruments or that Gibson makes better ones, just that you like Gibson more.
Sure endorsement deals involve money to some extent, but not always. There's brands out there that have their artists because *gasp* they make products that fit their roster. Nobody ever bashed DiMarzio's noiseless Strat style pickups, so I don't really know where you're getting this from.
Well, if you can get something more to your liking (not better) why not? Guitar players are a picky bunch in general. If you have a Strat but like Les Pauls better why not play a Les Paul? That does not mean Fender makes crappy instruments or that Gibson makes better ones, just that you like Gibson more.
Sure endorsement deals involve money to some extent, but not always. There's brands out there that have their artists because *gasp* they make products that fit their roster. Nobody ever bashed DiMarzio's noiseless Strat style pickups, so I don't really know where you're getting this from.
Fusion1
Active member
Re: Anyone tried the YJM Fury pickup yet?
Wow you summed up Yngwie's life in one sentence. One thing to add is the YJM Fury will give you the urge to constantly play Harmonic Minor arpeggios.
Wow you summed up Yngwie's life in one sentence. One thing to add is the YJM Fury will give you the urge to constantly play Harmonic Minor arpeggios.
