Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

Lewguitar

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Dunno how successful I’ll be, and I’m not going to do it for a month or two or three, but I’m not loving the Dimarzio pickups in my ‘99 EBMM Axis.

Thinking of putting a set of zebra Seth Lovers in that guitar...thinking. Just thinking.

I’d have to mod the baseplate of both to mount them because the pickups in the Axis are screwed in and not ht. adjustable.

Don’t like that but no way would I put a pair of mounting rings on this ax.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

I actually haven't heard the Seths used with a FR bridge. Usually, people get them with more vintage guitars, but it doesn't mean it won't work. The poles may not line up perfectly, though.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

I thought those might be too hot for what you are used to Lew. If you decide to swap, don't sell them off. Should you decide to sell the guitar later, you will want them.

Whenever I have to make a pickup fit into the DMZ route, I use an old DiMarzio base plate as a guide. Screw the two together bottom to bottom and trim with Dremel.

No reason why the Seth would not work. I remember a kid in some band out of Pasadena California that got some pretty good sounds with a Gibson humbucker and a Floyd.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

I thought those might be too hot for what you are used to Lew. If you decide to swap, don't sell them off. Should you decide to sell the guitar later, you will want them.

Whenever I have to make a pickup fit into the DMZ route, I use an old DiMarzio base plate as a guide. Screw the two together bottom to bottom and trim with Dremel.

No reason why the Seth would not work. I remember a kid in some band out of Pasadena California that got some pretty good sounds with a Gibson humbucker and a Floyd.

There ya go.

It’s my favorite set...I just want to have some fun with a whammy bar.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

So: Has anyone straightened the legs of an existing humbucker and then bent them again and reshaped them to match the legs of the Dimarzios in these Axis guitars...without breaking the now fatigued metal?

I’m pretty sure I’m going to eventually try this.

I’m after That Classic British Blues tone of the 60’s (Bluesbreakers and Cream) only I want to be able to use the Floyd.

That’s pretty much why I bought the Axis...although I was hoping I’d like the Dimarzios more. Just not my cup of tea tho.

I do love Eddie’s earlier tone before he started using hot Dimarzios, Peavey and now EVH pickups.

To me, Eddie’s earlier tones owed a lot to Eric Clapton’s 60’s Cream tones, which are my favorite humbucker tones.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

What in the hell are you trying to do? You are going to snap those feet off and then really be in the ****.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

yeah, i wouldnt try to re-bend the legs. seems doubtful things will work out well. are they too long? you can buy replacement baseplates and swap it out then cut the replacement
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

Many, if not most, 1980's super-strat style guitars with floyds are routed to accept long-legged pickups. In the case of late 80s MIJ Charvels, they are also standard spaced JT-6 floyd rose licensed trems.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

Lewguitar said:
I do love Eddie’s earlier tone before he started using hot Dimarzios, Peavey and now EVH pickups.

To me, Eddie’s earlier tones owed a lot to Eric Clapton’s 60’s Cream tones, which are my favorite humbucker tones.

I've put an uncovered Seth in a 6-holer strat with excellent results.

Regarding Ed and hi output pickups, he's always been into them.

There are pics of him right before the 1st album came out with a Mighty Mite Distortion (model 1300 - 13.5KOhms) in his guitar; which is a clone of the DiMarzio Super Distortion. Interestingly, Seymour Duncan was hired to do OEM work around the mid 1970s for Mighty Mite pickups. Seymour started advertising rewinds in late 1977 - early 1978 and then started making his own pickups in late 1978.

Notice the tell-tale bobbin color and/or hex-head screws in the following pics:

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And let's not forget the "Sharked" Destroyer:

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Or the "Bee":

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If you dig the early VH tone, your best bet is to go with the "PAF on steroids" - the SD SH-5 Custom.
It is similar (but not 100% exact) to the DiM SD in that it is also a ~14KOhm output with ceramic magnet pickup.
And it cleans up surprisingly well through a vintage Marshall circuit.

Plus, after all, this ad in the October 1979 Guitar Player magazine really pissed Ed off:

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Zoomed in:

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Interview by Jas Obrecht, 1979:

Are these Eddie Van Halen model guitars?

Yeah!

No kidding.

No kidding! It’s not like I want the money. It’s like the reason I did that – I mean, it looks like a Strat, but it only has one pickup in it, one volume knob, no tone, no fancy garbage. It’s painted the way I like ’em, and it’s rear-loaded – you know, it doesn’t have a pickguard. I’m not saying it’s “Wow, the new guitar,” but it is a guitar that you could not at the time buy on the market. So he kind of exploited my idea, so I’m suing him. See, I feel kind of ****ed doing that, but all I want him to do is to stop. I don’t give a damn about the money. But the main reason I did that [built my own guitar] was to have something that no one else had. You know, I wanted it to be my guitar, an extension of myself. Just the other night – Christmas Eve – I went to the Whisky. A band called the Weasels was playing, and the lead guitarist had a guitar exactly like mine. I just don’t understand how someone could walk onstage with my guitar, because it is my trademark. You know, when people see a freaked-out striped guitar like that, with one pickup and one volume knob, they obviously know it’s mine.

There goes your identity.

Yeah. And also, him selling it and advertising, makes it seem to the fans that I’m selling myself. They don’t know that I’m against it. They think that I’m out for the bucks. That’s not it at all. So it’s kind of a drag. There’s another guy too . . . . See, I’ve rewound my own pickups before, and a guy named Seymour Duncan – you probably know him – I got pissed at him too. He called me up and said, “Can we use your name for a special pickup?” And I said no. Next time I pick up Guitar Player magazine, there’s a special Van Halen model customized Duncan pickup. So I called him up and said, “What the hell’s goin’ on?” So he stopped, finally. It’s just kind of weird, you know.

You’re getting exploited.

Yeah. Just say something like.

Where’s a good place to go for guitar parts?

There’s a lot of different companies where you could buy parts. DiMarzio makes parts, Mighty Mite, Charvel. The main person who I buy parts from now is a guy up in Seattle named Lynn Ellsworth. He makes Boogie Bodies. He’s a nice guy.

Seymour pulled the ad after a month or two.

Finally, check out the SH-5 VH clips I just did in this thread:

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?325076-NAD-1968-50-Watt-Plexi-(clip)
 
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Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

Whoa, put the EVH kool-aid down and step away. Just making a casual reference, not looking to go full EVH here.

Ed winds his own pickups, lol.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

Ed unwound his own pickups. No one knows for sure if the reverse was true, or successful.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

I've put an uncovered Seth in a 6-holer strat with excellent results.

Regarding Ed and hi output pickups, he's always been into them.

There are pics of him right before the 1st album came out with a Mighty Mite Distortion (model 1300 - 13.5KOhms) in his guitar; which is a clone of the DiMarzio Super Distortion. Interestingly, Seymour Duncan was hired to do OEM work around the mid 1970s for Mighty Mite pickups. Seymour started advertising rewinds in late 1977 - early 1978 and then started making his own pickups in late 1978.

Notice the tell-tale bobbin color and/or hex-head screws in the following pics:

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And let's not forget the "Sharked" Destroyer:

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Or the "Bee":

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If you dig the early VH tone, your best bet is to go with the "PAF on steroids" - the SD SH-5 Custom.
It is similar (but not 100% exact) to the DiM SD in that it is also a ~14KOhm output with ceramic magnet pickup.
And it cleans up surprisingly well through a vintage Marshall circuit.

Plus, after all, this ad in the October 1979 Guitar Player magazine really pissed Ed off:

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Zoomed in:

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Interview by Jas Obrecht, 1979:



Seymour pulled the ad after a month or two.

Finally, check out the SH-5 VH clips I just did in this thread:

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?325076-NAD-1968-50-Watt-Plexi-(clip)

I play nothing like Eddie...but I do love his sound.

That’s interesting about Eddie and Seymour!

Seymour was just starting out...had some things to learn about business and using an artist’s name without written permission I guess.

That would be why the JB no longer stands for Jeff Beck...although I think it does.

And why the 78 doesn’t necessarily mean EVH...although I think it does.

Winky wink... ;)
 
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Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

Dunno how successful I’ll be, and I’m not going to do it for a month or two or three, but I’m not loving the Dimarzio pickups in my ‘99 EBMM Axis.

Thinking of putting a set of zebra Seth Lovers in that guitar...thinking. Just thinking.

I’d have to mod the baseplate of both to mount them because the pickups in the Axis are screwed in and not ht. adjustable.

Don’t like that but no way would I put a pair of mounting rings on this ax.

You could try Dimarzio PAFs , no mods needed to get them to fit
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

It you do go for it, let us know how it works!
 
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I was under the impression that the pickups in the Axis were custom made so that bottom of the pickup was held tight to the bottom of the pickup rout, and that the legs were a custom length and shape so they could be screwed down tightly.

The pickups are not ht. adjustable...altho I wish they were.

The neck pickup is a mile away from the strings.

Guess I’ll know if I remove them someday...which I’m increasingly leaning towards doing because I love the guitar but not the Dimarzios. Just not my tone.

If I do, it’ll be for a set of uncovered zebra Seth Lovers I know I love, and which are in a PRS SE I don’t play much.

I only paid $900 for this lovely ax. But I’ll keep all the parts and not do anything irreversible.

I turned 68 this year. I doubt I’ll ever sell it.

The color almost matches my ES-335, BTW. It’s much redder than it looks in the photo.
 
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Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

Had a 78 and loved it. Sold it and the guitar it was in 8 years ago when I sold most of my stuff to pay medical bills.

Maybe I’ll get another...

But I have a set of zebra Seth Lovers that have always sounded special to me.

I’m still leaning towards using those in the Axis.

I like the Custom Custom but don’t love it. A little lacking in sizzle. A little too smooth...like a big squishy caramel.

Not really...but it’s a bit too smooth for me.
 
Re: Anyone using Seth Lovers on a Floyd Rose guitar?

I'd declare bankruptcy before I'd ever sell musical stuff to pay medical bills.

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