APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
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Uncle Fred
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Uncle Fred
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
I think from the OP pictures we can assume by the guitar and the other toys in the background he is young.
Now remember, guys... Just because somebody's wrong doesn't mean we can be mean.
I think from the OP pictures we can assume by the guitar and the other toys in the background he is young.
GilmourD
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GilmourD
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
I've also woken up several times to find that my son left one of his Curious George plushes with me in bed and I wake up snuggling them. LOL
So... Proof that you can be a married man with a kid responsible enough to be a forum admin and STILL hold onto your inner child.
In reference to my post that you quoted, I meant that some of the users in the thread were getting a little testy with the OP. None of us ('cept maybe Falbo) were all-knowing paragons of guitar knowledge when we joined the SDUGF. We should be nice to those who come here looking for guidance or are just wrong but don't know any better.
I'm 35. I have toys. And, no, I don't mean "adult toys". LOL I mean like a Doctor Who sonic screwdriver, a CM Punk Funko POP vinyl doll, lots of Matchbox and Hot Wheels Mustangs, an old Animaniacs Wakko Warner plus, etc.
I've also woken up several times to find that my son left one of his Curious George plushes with me in bed and I wake up snuggling them. LOL
So... Proof that you can be a married man with a kid responsible enough to be a forum admin and STILL hold onto your inner child.
In reference to my post that you quoted, I meant that some of the users in the thread were getting a little testy with the OP. None of us ('cept maybe Falbo) were all-knowing paragons of guitar knowledge when we joined the SDUGF. We should be nice to those who come here looking for guidance or are just wrong but don't know any better.
Uncle Fred
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
OK got ya lol you lots of fun
well I think this is a good thread actually got me active again.
I'm 35. I have toys. And, no, I don't mean "adult toys". LOL I mean like a Doctor Who sonic screwdriver, a CM Punk Funko POP vinyl doll, lots of Matchbox and Hot Wheels Mustangs, an old Animaniacs Wakko Warner plus, etc.
I've also woken up several times to find that my son left one of his Curious George plushes with me in bed and I wake up snuggling them. LOL
So... Proof that you can be a married man with a kid responsible enough to be a forum admin and STILL hold onto your inner child.
In reference to my post that you quoted, I meant that some of the users in the thread were getting a little testy with the OP. None of us ('cept maybe Falbo) were all-knowing paragons of guitar knowledge when we joined the SDUGF. We should be nice to those who come here looking for guidance or are just wrong but don't know any better.
OK got ya lol you lots of fun
well I think this is a good thread actually got me active again.
donaldr
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
Not sure seeing a guitar like this I will pay attention to bridge pickup pole misalignment...
lordraptor1
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yeah im 40 years young, and i still collect transformers and ghostrider stuff so bite me
. and that guitar is my first scratch build and seeing as my preference in music is the harder darker side of rock i wanted it to look evil ( so again bite me). now in regards to my comment i am also into R/C ( that is radio control for you old farts LOL, and i know well enough to know with building rc motors over the years to know about magnetic fields which pup pole pieces have and optimal placement inside of said magnetic field which is what i am after in this instance. with that said i already figured i would buy a set and worste case scenario is i find what i already suspect and that the bridge pup will be the reason for why everyone i talk to dont like them.
with that said however chrome and gold covered versions according to SD are store customs and i need to find if both pups will have the logo or if it will be like ordering a set straight from sd to get teh right bridge pole spacing ( or trembucker) which in that case bridge pup wont have logo ( and really why buy SLASH pups if they dont have the logo, i could save a decent amount just getting something else or just sticking with the stock epi pups or using the set i wound, or the guitar force rebel fire set i bought off of a forum?).
i stand by what i said though IMHO the slash sets are not good ( at least the bridge pup anyway) as the strings wont be centered in the magnetic field of the pole pieces however they would work great in a vintage lp.
and on a final note: to be perfectly honest i cannot say i can tell a difference in "tone" between pups when i run the guitar through my old peavey VTM120 head and matching 412-MS cab, a few settings on the vtm knobs, a little chorus and a little reverb and the SCOM intro lick sounds the exact same regardless of what pups i have used and i mainly want the "slash" pups just because they have slashes name on them ( which again reverts back to if id doesnt have a logo it isnt a slash pup). as an extra FYI the guitar withthe skull parts has been tried both 50's style and modern with orange drops and pio caps and again i can tell no difference when rolling volume or tone knobs either LOL.
yeah im 40 years young, and i still collect transformers and ghostrider stuff so bite me
. and that guitar is my first scratch build and seeing as my preference in music is the harder darker side of rock i wanted it to look evil ( so again bite me). now in regards to my comment i am also into R/C ( that is radio control for you old farts LOL, and i know well enough to know with building rc motors over the years to know about magnetic fields which pup pole pieces have and optimal placement inside of said magnetic field which is what i am after in this instance. with that said i already figured i would buy a set and worste case scenario is i find what i already suspect and that the bridge pup will be the reason for why everyone i talk to dont like them. with that said however chrome and gold covered versions according to SD are store customs and i need to find if both pups will have the logo or if it will be like ordering a set straight from sd to get teh right bridge pole spacing ( or trembucker) which in that case bridge pup wont have logo ( and really why buy SLASH pups if they dont have the logo, i could save a decent amount just getting something else or just sticking with the stock epi pups or using the set i wound, or the guitar force rebel fire set i bought off of a forum?).
i stand by what i said though IMHO the slash sets are not good ( at least the bridge pup anyway) as the strings wont be centered in the magnetic field of the pole pieces however they would work great in a vintage lp.
and on a final note: to be perfectly honest i cannot say i can tell a difference in "tone" between pups when i run the guitar through my old peavey VTM120 head and matching 412-MS cab, a few settings on the vtm knobs, a little chorus and a little reverb and the SCOM intro lick sounds the exact same regardless of what pups i have used and i mainly want the "slash" pups just because they have slashes name on them ( which again reverts back to if id doesnt have a logo it isnt a slash pup). as an extra FYI the guitar withthe skull parts has been tried both 50's style and modern with orange drops and pio caps and again i can tell no difference when rolling volume or tone knobs either LOL.
lordraptor1
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
i wouldnt say i am wrong in this case and to clarify let me say this, i have worked on and built 540 sized rc car motors for years and there is a reason there are washers on the shafts inside the cans and that is to optimally place the armature centered in the magnetic field of the magnets i see the same principle as valid for guitar pickups. now by ear it may sound the same to you but not to everyone else because everyone is different and not your clone as such they will hear, see, and perceive things differently than you do, which also brings me to seeing LOL, i have been also been building model kits for years and believe me if something is out of place or mismatched i WILL notice and i would notice out of line pole pieces from 3 to 5 feet away.
now if you had a GOOD computer program that would read and graph the sound you would see that there IS a difference however slight and regardless of i can hear it or not i prefer to have strings optimally positioned in the pole pieces magnetic field, first off it would give best chance for sound/tone with properly aligned pole pieces IMHO, and secondly it wouldnt stick out like a sore thumb visually. i have no problem with the haters because they are NOT me and dont know my thinking or reasoning, just like i dont get their need to say gibson is better than epiphone, or tell me how great gibson is, or how the quality of gibson is superior to epiphone because in my personal experience that is a load of BS.
i voiced my personal opinion and left it at that i am not going to go into other peoples threads and bash their opinions although if i really wanted to show immaturity i could, but what is the point people have their opinions like i have mine and i stand by what i said the slash bridge pup is not good for a modern les paul bacuse the pole piece spacing is not correct for modern lps
i wouldnt say i am wrong in this case and to clarify let me say this, i have worked on and built 540 sized rc car motors for years and there is a reason there are washers on the shafts inside the cans and that is to optimally place the armature centered in the magnetic field of the magnets i see the same principle as valid for guitar pickups. now by ear it may sound the same to you but not to everyone else because everyone is different and not your clone as such they will hear, see, and perceive things differently than you do, which also brings me to seeing LOL, i have been also been building model kits for years and believe me if something is out of place or mismatched i WILL notice and i would notice out of line pole pieces from 3 to 5 feet away.
now if you had a GOOD computer program that would read and graph the sound you would see that there IS a difference however slight and regardless of i can hear it or not i prefer to have strings optimally positioned in the pole pieces magnetic field, first off it would give best chance for sound/tone with properly aligned pole pieces IMHO, and secondly it wouldnt stick out like a sore thumb visually. i have no problem with the haters because they are NOT me and dont know my thinking or reasoning, just like i dont get their need to say gibson is better than epiphone, or tell me how great gibson is, or how the quality of gibson is superior to epiphone because in my personal experience that is a load of BS.
i voiced my personal opinion and left it at that i am not going to go into other peoples threads and bash their opinions although if i really wanted to show immaturity i could, but what is the point people have their opinions like i have mine and i stand by what i said the slash bridge pup is not good for a modern les paul bacuse the pole piece spacing is not correct for modern lps
Myaccount876
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
Duh. Internet drivel.
Duh. Internet drivel.
lordraptor1
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i had a set of used regular spaced PAF in there before that i got from an old music store that was closing up shop after 35+ years in business before i put the epi pups in it, sadly one day i plugged it in and the PAF pups failed and i have had a few guitars with normal spaced bridge pups on trem style guitars and it did sound a little different from my epi lp did but with the epi pups on my buld and the stockers in my epi lp i can tell no difference if i have both sets in both guitars set to identical pup and pole piece hieghts and i can say from 5 feet away it sure looked wierd with the pole pieces not being centered ( as a side note i am one of those people that put photoetch brass pieces (including hinges and padlocks) on model tanks that are 1/35th scale which to put that scale in perspective think WWII panther tank in a model the size of or a little bigger than your fist
so i would DEFINATLEY notice).
and as per seymour duncan there is NO slash trembucker, they say they can wind a trem bucker to slash specs but the TB will NOT have a slash logo, somethign to do with the agreement made with slash to make the pups based on his appetite lp and to me that seems lame since not everyone has or can afford a vintage which is what his appetite les paul is and in my opinion it isnt a slash pup if there is no slash logo and why by a set that essentially has a sig and a plain ( better to save cash and just buy plains in the first place LOL).
basicall it is drilled into my head centered in the magnetic field is OPTIMAL and looks right while a little offset is not and looks hokey. if you dont have an issue with offset pole spacing more power to you but my opinion is that normal pole spacking isnt optimal for a modern LP
i had a set of used regular spaced PAF in there before that i got from an old music store that was closing up shop after 35+ years in business before i put the epi pups in it, sadly one day i plugged it in and the PAF pups failed and i have had a few guitars with normal spaced bridge pups on trem style guitars and it did sound a little different from my epi lp did but with the epi pups on my buld and the stockers in my epi lp i can tell no difference if i have both sets in both guitars set to identical pup and pole piece hieghts and i can say from 5 feet away it sure looked wierd with the pole pieces not being centered ( as a side note i am one of those people that put photoetch brass pieces (including hinges and padlocks) on model tanks that are 1/35th scale which to put that scale in perspective think WWII panther tank in a model the size of or a little bigger than your fist
so i would DEFINATLEY notice).and as per seymour duncan there is NO slash trembucker, they say they can wind a trem bucker to slash specs but the TB will NOT have a slash logo, somethign to do with the agreement made with slash to make the pups based on his appetite lp and to me that seems lame since not everyone has or can afford a vintage which is what his appetite les paul is and in my opinion it isnt a slash pup if there is no slash logo and why by a set that essentially has a sig and a plain ( better to save cash and just buy plains in the first place LOL).
basicall it is drilled into my head centered in the magnetic field is OPTIMAL and looks right while a little offset is not and looks hokey. if you dont have an issue with offset pole spacing more power to you but my opinion is that normal pole spacking isnt optimal for a modern LP
lordraptor1
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
then stop posting and then we wont have your "internet drivel" LOL
then stop posting and then we wont have your "internet drivel" LOL
Myaccount876
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
The gist I got from this thread and all the other random threads you posted on at MLP was that you hadn't actually tried the Slash pickup, is this correct?
The gist I got from this thread and all the other random threads you posted on at MLP was that you hadn't actually tried the Slash pickup, is this correct?
Snake Aces
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
I won't be biting anything.
I won't be biting anything.
blueman335
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Re: APH-2s no good for "modern" les pauls
That's what I do, make neck hybrids using one coil of a neck PAF with one coil of bridge PAF. Yes, it does make for some great tones. Don't know why more PU makers aren't selling some of these in their regular production line.
What magnet are you using with that hybrid, A2 or A5? I find that a these neck hybrids with PAF bridge and neck coils, I can use a warm magnet and still have a sharper high than a regular neck PAF, so I use A2's and UOA5's in mine and also get that rich texture.
That's what I do, make neck hybrids using one coil of a neck PAF with one coil of bridge PAF. Yes, it does make for some great tones. Don't know why more PU makers aren't selling some of these in their regular production line.
What magnet are you using with that hybrid, A2 or A5? I find that a these neck hybrids with PAF bridge and neck coils, I can use a warm magnet and still have a sharper high than a regular neck PAF, so I use A2's and UOA5's in mine and also get that rich texture.
