Are Electric Guitars Dying A Slow Death?
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Silence Kid
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I hate watching videos so prob. won't be commenting directly on the content... But who said music has to be "industrial?" I think it'll be interesting to see the function of music in society minus that industry infrastructure.
I hate watching videos so prob. won't be commenting directly on the content... But who said music has to be "industrial?" I think it'll be interesting to see the function of music in society minus that industry infrastructure.
Open lane
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Pretty cool and well presented video. When i saw pat Metheny earlier this year, I was thinking "is jazz guitar at the end of it's cycle?" He's always been the young guy in the scene, and looked, well uh, gray.
Will be interesting to see what happens. Stuff seems to come and go in cycles. In 5 years, it could be a dif discussion. I'm really into the instrumental music bubble, so i don't think the scene will really decrease much more, as a result of what is popular
Pretty cool and well presented video. When i saw pat Metheny earlier this year, I was thinking "is jazz guitar at the end of it's cycle?" He's always been the young guy in the scene, and looked, well uh, gray.
Will be interesting to see what happens. Stuff seems to come and go in cycles. In 5 years, it could be a dif discussion. I'm really into the instrumental music bubble, so i don't think the scene will really decrease much more, as a result of what is popular
treyhaislip
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Technically we all are dying...
Technically we all are dying...
Chris Pile
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This is the 3rd thread on this topic.
Any mods want to merge them?
This is the 3rd thread on this topic.
Any mods want to merge them?
Silence Kid
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Yeah, the industry's greed is to blame for capitalizing off an idiot public who are susceptible to being convinced they like hip hop/rap/whatever it is. But in the end the responsibility for hip hop's popularity still lies with the idiot population that would willingly listen to it; they are victims, but also part of the problem.
Yeah, the industry's greed is to blame for capitalizing off an idiot public who are susceptible to being convinced they like hip hop/rap/whatever it is. But in the end the responsibility for hip hop's popularity still lies with the idiot population that would willingly listen to it; they are victims, but also part of the problem.
Clint 55
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It has to do with the economics of it. Back in the day, Mozart and friends were employed by the Kings and the court, so that incentivized dank music. Now because media reaches billions of listeners, it's the average numbskull that's funding the music industry and so that incentivizes simple gimicky music.
It has to do with the economics of it. Back in the day, Mozart and friends were employed by the Kings and the court, so that incentivized dank music. Now because media reaches billions of listeners, it's the average numbskull that's funding the music industry and so that incentivizes simple gimicky music.
LtKojak
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The focus on sales and production costs over for supporting and developing new artists making new music is a process that started in the early '80s, when lawyers and accountants took over the management at the top all the major labels. The results was to push all artists that their "production costs" have been paid for, perpetuating many artists which came out in the mid-'60s to late '70s. It's all about the ROI.
Also the contracts new musicians sign today, make'em pay themselves for all the costs the labels generate, when in the past the label paid their fair share. So today, after all astronomic costs of every single aspect of creating, promoting, recording and releasing the product are paid for, in many cases the artist that generated say, 5 million in sales, in many cases they've been left with less than $100,000 in their pockets when everything went well, to a million in debt, so the artist had to take another mortgage on their properties, just to be able to survive.
Greed and its consequential economic power over the people is what makes the world go round today, and even make many complot theories more than plausible. As it's not going to change anytime soon, better get used to it.
"You come into this world screaming, life sucks, then you die. That's going to be your story and it's nothing you can do to change it."
- anonimous quote
The focus on sales and production costs over for supporting and developing new artists making new music is a process that started in the early '80s, when lawyers and accountants took over the management at the top all the major labels. The results was to push all artists that their "production costs" have been paid for, perpetuating many artists which came out in the mid-'60s to late '70s. It's all about the ROI.
Also the contracts new musicians sign today, make'em pay themselves for all the costs the labels generate, when in the past the label paid their fair share. So today, after all astronomic costs of every single aspect of creating, promoting, recording and releasing the product are paid for, in many cases the artist that generated say, 5 million in sales, in many cases they've been left with less than $100,000 in their pockets when everything went well, to a million in debt, so the artist had to take another mortgage on their properties, just to be able to survive.
Greed and its consequential economic power over the people is what makes the world go round today, and even make many complot theories more than plausible. As it's not going to change anytime soon, better get used to it.
"You come into this world screaming, life sucks, then you die. That's going to be your story and it's nothing you can do to change it."
- anonimous quote
The JEM Ghost
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I have to agree with that unfortunately... The world seems to get worse every day... I don't want to sound to depressed though but to say it in a Metallica way: "It's sad, but true!".
I have to agree with that unfortunately... The world seems to get worse every day... I don't want to sound to depressed though but to say it in a Metallica way: "It's sad, but true!".
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I don't know why people are noticing this now. Teens have no idea who Black Sabbath, the Beatles or Led Zeppelin are. Their parents aren't taking them to see live music. Guitar is like a recorder to them- something archaic that they can't relate to. We have no true guitar heroes making iconic music.
I don't know why people are noticing this now. Teens have no idea who Black Sabbath, the Beatles or Led Zeppelin are. Their parents aren't taking them to see live music. Guitar is like a recorder to them- something archaic that they can't relate to. We have no true guitar heroes making iconic music.
PFDarkside
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Is electric guitar dying?
Yes. The industry is down 33% over the last decade.
Why isn't rock popular anymore?
Because Soundscan showed that people actually listen to Country and Hip Hop/R&B, not the rock that was being forced on them by Record Labels/Radio stations through quasi-payola.
Is electric guitar dying?
Yes. The industry is down 33% over the last decade.
Why isn't rock popular anymore?
Because Soundscan showed that people actually listen to Country and Hip Hop/R&B, not the rock that was being forced on them by Record Labels/Radio stations through quasi-payola.
Silence Kid
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I'm sick of "rock" with handclaps and whistles, or songs that sound like they were composed to be in a pad commercial.
I'm sick of "rock" with handclaps and whistles, or songs that sound like they were composed to be in a pad commercial.
kingsnake
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Well, if the electric guitar is "dying" it is due to the fact that young audiences don't primarily listen to guitar driven music any more, but there are PLENTY of exceptions out there.
But, i'm getting old (34 now), and could give a DAMN about what is popular or what anyone else listens to. I am always going to have and play my SG and Strat so who cares. I understand gigging musicians my be concerned about dwindling audiences but pop culture ebbs and flows.. a resurgence could happen tomorrow, ya never know!
Well, if the electric guitar is "dying" it is due to the fact that young audiences don't primarily listen to guitar driven music any more, but there are PLENTY of exceptions out there.
But, i'm getting old (34 now), and could give a DAMN about what is popular or what anyone else listens to. I am always going to have and play my SG and Strat so who cares. I understand gigging musicians my be concerned about dwindling audiences but pop culture ebbs and flows.. a resurgence could happen tomorrow, ya never know!
Clint 55
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That's alright I still got my guitar. - Hendrix
That's alright I still got my guitar. - Hendrix
