Attenuation

[ehdwuld]

Ok so I was on Thomann
and they have the Bugera Ps1 for $78 with free shipping to the states
Everything has free shipping btw

And I want one

But I was watching some videos about making one from an Lpad and some Jack's

What do yall thinks

The lpad is $15 on ebay
Plus a box

What would yall do?

 

[PS412]

I say:
If you have the desire, the skill and the time. Always do it yourself.
Sometimes sitting in a lawn chair, drinking a beer and watching or waiting is good too.



This is something I would buy.

 

[beaubrummels]

How much is the amp you want to use it on?

 

[JMP/HBE]

Id pass on both ideas and get an old THD hotplate or Scholz power soak.
I have both and they work great and are well made so you won't smoke your amp.
Bugera stuff is not well made.
But if your amp is not important be my guest.
You get what you pay for. People are always going to be tempted to buy cheap stuff.

 

[ehdwuld]

the amp is a Carvin Belair
its volume knob goes from inaudible at 1 to blaring at 2

 

[Adieu]

Try something with a volume control or EQ sliders through the effects loop first. If it's a serial loop, it works as a master volume multiplier.

 

[ehdwuld]

Made one of those years ago

It's that housing I was going to repurpose

Just replace the guitar pot with the Lpad

 

[formula73]

I’ve used a Weber Mass 100 for a long time.

So long, in fact, I have a hard time finding my tone without it.

 

[beaubrummels]

I’ve used a Weber Mass 100 for a long time.

So long, in fact, I have a hard time finding my tone without it.

+1 (though I can still get my tone without it. ;-) )

 

[ehdwuld]

well I just ordered the Bugera PS1

it was $77 with free shipping
then they charged shipping $27
then the bill on my CC was $108

hmmm
I sent them an email

something got screwed up

 

[formula73]

+1 (though I can still get my tone without it. ;-) )

I just got so used to my amp settings with the 3db treble boost it was a bit of a shock without it!

 

[beaubrummels]

I just got so used to my amp settings with the 3db treble boost it was a bit of a shock without it!

Yeah yeah. The MASS is a well known device for real owners. I get everything I want out of it, certainly all the tone I need with or without I can achieve with it.

 

[JMP/HBE]

well I just ordered the Bugera PS1

it was $77 with free shipping
then they charged shipping $27
then the bill on my CC was $108

hmmm
I sent them an email

something got screwed up

Something got screwed alright.

 

[ehdwuld]

Hmmm
they cancelled the order

Start over I guess

 

[Erlend_G]

I really wonder how the "attuentator" - or what it is? that makes the 20watt/2watt switch on my Blackstar Ht-20 really works.

I leave it at 2 watts for home use; because it lets the power tubes move more into the "register" where they start adding harmonic content.

A really nice feature, I think...

 

[Coma]

If I were you I'd save my money and spring for something better. The PS1 is tha same model as the Harley Benton Power soak but with a different exterior design. And it's pretty much rubbish. Yes, it'll attenuate but it'll also suck out all the high end of your amp. Even after compensating with the EQ it's going to sound muffled. I tried with both a big 100 w head and a small 15 w lunchbox and the result was the same.

 

[Erlend_G]

I'd love to get some good information about this- awsell.- My next amp is gonna be 50/100watts- and then I need an attentitatior to reduce the overall volume, for home/practice use .

 

[ehdwuld]

well I ordered the LPad
and some jacks

I suppose a treble bleed on the LPad will cure the "tone" loss

 

[beaubrummels]

How did you determine the values for the components, being on the power output stage?

This is a naive question, but...
An LPad isn't a reactive load. Could a cone-less speaker driver (a la Weber MASS) or some kind of transducer/motor/servo/something be added to make it reactive?

(I haven't looked at the internals of my Weber MASS to see what it's design is, just curious if a cheap/easy alternative could be made that is still reactive.)

 

[ehdwuld]

It's not a load box
it's an attenuation device

The amps speakers will still be connected

The Lpad comes in the 8 ohm variety
I could add an 8 ohm 100 watt resistor to make it 16 ohm

But I'll just connect it to the speaker cabinet that already exists

All I want is my Carvin Belair to be useable at a lower volume

I think if it gets muddy or something
I can always ad a cap across the pad to fix that