Behringer Centaur ???

[Securb]

I paid $25 shipped for my Moskey Golden Horse and it sounds like a Klon. Kinda cool for the cover stuff but I have no need for it for the original gig.

 

[ErikH]

I paid $25 shipped for my Moskey Golden Horse and it sounds like a Klon. Kinda cool for the cover stuff but I have no need for it for the original gig.

I have the Silver Horse. Not a bad sounding pedal. I like the Octonaught Hyperdrive better. Keeping the Silver Horse in case I need it on another board.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

I've had the TC Electronic Zeus with the Germanium diodes and the J. Rocket Archer Ikon, and I don't think Klons are for me. I suppose they're cool if you're boosting amps for mid-gain tones, but they're certainly not bosts for Metal. They're too thuddy for that.

For Metal, I suppose they would be cool boosts to try with an amp that is already inheretly tight, just not quite tight enough.

 

[RanchManSandy]

They do the same with synths, although to be fair, the original synth companies are (mostly) long gone. For any pedal company, you have to make features people want at prices they want to pay. If any company cracks that code, they will do well. Actual circuits can't be trademarked, although trade dress can. I am not for copying someone's enclosure design (unless they pay for a license from the original company), but cheaper clones are fair game.

I can't tell if you willfully missed the point of my post or not

 

[Chistopher]

I have lost the plot

 

[Mincer]

I did watch a few videos of this pedal this morning, and it sounds just like every other Klon pedal out there. In a way, I am happy that the 'Klon sound' isn't being gate-keeped by high prices and black silicone. It is a good sound, but there isn't much to it. But if you were to read old guitar magazine articles from the early 2000s you'd think that there is no other way to achieve a good tone.

 

[Chistopher]

I will say, it's a cool circuit. I don't have much use for the sounds that come out of it though. The term "transparent overdrive" is a great example for why jargon used in development doesn't always belong in advertising material.

 

[Artie]

It is a good sound, but there isn't much to it.

I think that's what I liked about it. Subtle distortion. It's been well over a decade since a forum bro loaned me his, but that's what I remember.

I need to get my Klon Klone finished up.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

I don't think the Klon-types are all that "transparent". They retain more low and high-end than a Tube Screamer and it's more attacky because it blends the clean boosted signal in, but it's still very much mid-focused in the grand scheme of things. And germanium diodes are squishy-sounding too.

 

[jeremy]

i think the clean (gain off or very low) sounds are fairly transparent but as soon as you roll the gain up to lets say 3 or 4, theres a noticeable change in the mids, which sounds great. bill never charged a lot of money for these things, its all aftermarket soaring prices. he made a pedal and wanted to sell it for a fair price and protect his design. i dont fault him for that.

 

[Securb]

I have already seen one in the wild, my Mom & Pop have the Berringer used. I guess someone quickly decided they didn't like it for some reason.

 

[Mincer]

i think the clean (gain off or very low) sounds are fairly transparent but as soon as you roll the gain up to lets say 3 or 4, theres a noticeable change in the mids, which sounds great. bill never charged a lot of money for these things, its all aftermarket soaring prices. he made a pedal and wanted to sell it for a fair price and protect his design. i dont fault him for that.

But he only produced them in limited numbers, or like the KTR, in batches, so wait lists were long.

 

[ehdwuld]

and each run sold-out at whatever he marked it as
he made the money he wanted each time

and those originals he made do not go down in value

the clones have no such appeal and stay relatively inexpensive

sub market = the rest of us working class folks

 

[Chistopher]

i think the clean (gain off or very low) sounds are fairly transparent but as soon as you roll the gain up to lets say 3 or 4, theres a noticeable change in the mids, which sounds great. bill never charged a lot of money for these things, its all aftermarket soaring prices. he made a pedal and wanted to sell it for a fair price and protect his design. i dont fault him for that.

The gain control on a Klon isn't a traditional gain control. It's also a blend control. And to further confuse things, when you turn the gain up it applies a filter on the signal.

 

[jeremy]

yeah, i know that. its part of the magic of that circuit where the mids change as you roll up the gain

 

[Aceman]

I feel there are just as good clones out there with smaller footprints and lower price tags. I do not see what magic Berringer is going to sprinkle on this 100th Klon clone. I am sure it will sound great but as I said, there is cheaper and smaller ones already on the market.

This. Just get a Wampler Tumnus and call it a day.

 

[Aceman]

The gain control on a Klon isn't a traditional gain control. It's also a blend control. And to further confuse things, when you turn the gain up it applies a filter on the signal.

And everyone cloning it seriously knows that.

 

[Chistopher]

It would be interesting to see the "blend is integrated into the gain control" on a bass fuzz

 

[Mincer]

This. Just get a Wampler Tumnus and call it a day.

But the Behringer will be a lot cheaper.

 

[jeremy]

a few of my friends have real klons, and they really are great. i know a handful of people who have a ktr, and its great too. i use an archer and i dont feel like im missing anything. the soul food isnt the same thing, not a bad pedal, but doesnt do the trick as well. i like the tumnus but it doesnt seem quite the same, much closer than a soul food though. these are 100% not designed for metal, so im not surprised that some people in that camp dont care for them, but im guessing some metal guys use em and love it