best amp for a room : a Marshall?
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El Dunco
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Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
You may be interested in an attenuator. I use one all the time. Even live.
You can get the power section to full saturation at a bedroom level and there's nothing like getting a 100watter to do that. Careful though, you'll reduce the tube life cranking them full bore all the time.
You can at least have the amp "open up" and yet be whisper quiet.
You may be interested in an attenuator. I use one all the time. Even live.
You can get the power section to full saturation at a bedroom level and there's nothing like getting a 100watter to do that. Careful though, you'll reduce the tube life cranking them full bore all the time.
You can at least have the amp "open up" and yet be whisper quiet.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
For bedroom use, my favorite is my blue grill Vox Valvetronix AD60 head on top of my Bogner 212 closed back cab.
Modelers excel in this area, and the good cab keeps the tone quality of a tube amp. It's the only rig I like at midnight, when I want a good tone at whisper levels.
If you're determined to stay with tubes, the Hughes and Kettner Tubemeister 18 head on a 112 or 212 cab is the way to go. It's the only tube amp I've ever tried that's perfect for low volume home use. It also has a Redbox recording out, so the amp can run silent if you're recording with people in the next room.
For bedroom use, my favorite is my blue grill Vox Valvetronix AD60 head on top of my Bogner 212 closed back cab.
Modelers excel in this area, and the good cab keeps the tone quality of a tube amp. It's the only rig I like at midnight, when I want a good tone at whisper levels.
If you're determined to stay with tubes, the Hughes and Kettner Tubemeister 18 head on a 112 or 212 cab is the way to go. It's the only tube amp I've ever tried that's perfect for low volume home use. It also has a Redbox recording out, so the amp can run silent if you're recording with people in the next room.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
Whatever's cheap and sounds ****ty. Seriously, it's practice, why bother with spending the big bucks? I save my best stuff for full band practice and live work.
Whatever's cheap and sounds ****ty. Seriously, it's practice, why bother with spending the big bucks? I save my best stuff for full band practice and live work.
beaubrummels
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Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
One reason is: when you are fighting against your tools or have your tools working against you (the guitar/strings/pickups/pedals/amp/speakers), it negatively compromises your technique and skill building ability. It's better to practice with the same dexterity and touch you will use when it counts, so you need equipment that at least allows you to do that. If you can do that cheap, that's ideal, but if you want practicing to yield meaningful improvement, I've learned it's better to first focus on what the tools do for you and worry about cost second.
One reason is: when you are fighting against your tools or have your tools working against you (the guitar/strings/pickups/pedals/amp/speakers), it negatively compromises your technique and skill building ability. It's better to practice with the same dexterity and touch you will use when it counts, so you need equipment that at least allows you to do that. If you can do that cheap, that's ideal, but if you want practicing to yield meaningful improvement, I've learned it's better to first focus on what the tools do for you and worry about cost second.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
That's a load of BS. I was practicing through my drummer's girlfriend's Frontman 15G (sucked balls) and I still had fun, and the practice definitely worked/helped my technique.
That's a load of BS. I was practicing through my drummer's girlfriend's Frontman 15G (sucked balls) and I still had fun, and the practice definitely worked/helped my technique.
beaubrummels
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Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
Someday, when you grow up and have a little more experience, I want you to reread this thread.
Someday, when you grow up and have a little more experience, I want you to reread this thread.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
I got an Orange Tiny Terror head three days ago, and have spent the entire weekend with it. It's the only amp I've ever played where the half power setting was just as good as full output. 15/7W. It's also the only single channel amp I've ever played that has great British tube clean tone all the way up to Iommi's modern Laney tone, all with 3 knobs ....Vol, Tone, Gain.
I'm going to have a blast with this little amp. It can get bone crushing loud too. Pure power tube breakup.
I still stand by my recommendation on the Tubemeister 18 head. And any of the Orange lunchbox amps.....the black ones if you want super highgain.
I think those are the best small tube amps that can give you clean to highgain.
Outside of that, stick with modeling amps for low volume home practice.
I got an Orange Tiny Terror head three days ago, and have spent the entire weekend with it. It's the only amp I've ever played where the half power setting was just as good as full output. 15/7W. It's also the only single channel amp I've ever played that has great British tube clean tone all the way up to Iommi's modern Laney tone, all with 3 knobs ....Vol, Tone, Gain.
I'm going to have a blast with this little amp. It can get bone crushing loud too. Pure power tube breakup.
I still stand by my recommendation on the Tubemeister 18 head. And any of the Orange lunchbox amps.....the black ones if you want super highgain.
I think those are the best small tube amps that can give you clean to highgain.
Outside of that, stick with modeling amps for low volume home practice.
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
if it works for you, than good for you!! You dont need to say that BS. Atleast, It doesnt work for me.
To OP Have you tried using your computer as an amp? I heard there are softwares that can do that,
if it works for you, than good for you!! You dont need to say that BS. Atleast, It doesnt work for me.
To OP Have you tried using your computer as an amp? I heard there are softwares that can do that,
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
sorry, i wanted to say "bedroom"!!
nobody has the new Marshall 1w? jcm1, jvm1? dsl1?
it's very expensive and i played with the dsl (jcm2000) in a guitar shop: the sound was not fantastic (a little cold, not warm) compared to Slash 5w MArshall
but i think for distorsion it's good
sorry, i wanted to say "bedroom"!!
nobody has the new Marshall 1w? jcm1, jvm1? dsl1?
it's very expensive and i played with the dsl (jcm2000) in a guitar shop: the sound was not fantastic (a little cold, not warm) compared to Slash 5w MArshall
but i think for distorsion it's good
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
The problem with those expensive Marshall low wattage amps is just that.....expensive, and can be beaten by a lower price point.
Look at the H&K's and Oranges. They're the best of the low wattage tube amps that can be used for clean to highgain in a low volume situation, but they're also loud enough to be taken seriously as main amps.
The problem with those expensive Marshall low wattage amps is just that.....expensive, and can be beaten by a lower price point.
Look at the H&K's and Oranges. They're the best of the low wattage tube amps that can be used for clean to highgain in a low volume situation, but they're also loud enough to be taken seriously as main amps.
SongsForTheDeaf
New member
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
Exactly... I practice with headphones on my mustang I amp... sounds pretty good too with higher gain and clean stuff. I do play a Mesa Lonestar special 4x10 pretty loud though in my room a lot ... neighbours probably hate me
Exactly... I practice with headphones on my mustang I amp... sounds pretty good too with higher gain and clean stuff. I do play a Mesa Lonestar special 4x10 pretty loud though in my room a lot ... neighbours probably hate me
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
I have yet to find a tube amp at any price point that sounds as good as a modeller at bedroom/apartment levels.
My current practice/demo rig is Amplitube Custom Shop on my iMac, using my Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 as an input device.
I have yet to find a tube amp at any price point that sounds as good as a modeller at bedroom/apartment levels.
My current practice/demo rig is Amplitube Custom Shop on my iMac, using my Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 as an input device.
Re: best amp for a room : a Marshall?
i agree. i find that once i find that special tone that i like i can't put my guitar down. when the tone is bad/cheap i can easily put the guitar down.
i agree. i find that once i find that special tone that i like i can't put my guitar down. when the tone is bad/cheap i can easily put the guitar down.
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