Big fat sounding humbucker for Strat bridge

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papersoul said:
Thanks, what do you mean this application needs work? Well, I do like the PG in this Strat so it might stay. I am going to try a CC, a JB and Rio BBQ for kicks but I think the PG may stay. The PG is supposed to be bright but it seems warm in this guitar.
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I meant whatever web application at seymourduncan.com did those recommendations needs work.

Very clearly the PG is the A2 PAF to use in a tremolo Strat. As you have noticed, it comes out warm and round. The APH is very aggressive borderlining thin in a Les Paul (kind of the point) and is left to dry in the air in a guitar with a tremolo block.
 
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I love the PG in a trem strat. It drives nice but it doesn't get all compressed when used with a higher gain amp like a higher output HBer does. In my opinion, a higher output HBer really has its place when using a non master amp, but for most applications it's hard to beat a PG for a fat strat.
 
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uOpt said:
I meant whatever web application at seymourduncan.com did those recommendations needs work.

Very clearly the PG is the A2 PAF to use in a tremolo Strat. As you have noticed, it comes out warm and round. The APH is very aggressive borderlining thin in a Les Paul (kind of the point) and is left to dry in the air in a guitar with a tremolo block.
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You know I have a Rio BBQ and Duncan PATB-3 to try under Jeremy's recommendation but man the plain PG works in the Fat Strat. I have to see how tight it is in the lows though. I haven't gotten it set up yet.

What do you guys think is the best matching singles for the PG??? A friend said the SSL1s? I would prefer noiseless.
 
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I think the Duncan Custom Custom and Dimarzio Air Zone also sound great here.
 
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I have tried the CC, C5 and Custom by switching the magnets. The CC was the orig. It was warm but lacked the low end, mids and highs were good. The C5 sounded great at low volumes with out bass and drums, but didn't really cut through in a band situation since its kinda scooped. I now have the Custom with the ceramic magnet and its perfect for the type of music I play www.myspace.com/ricobiscuit and it versatile as well. It sounds great split. The CC didn't sound good split to me at all. just my 2 cents, hope it helpful
 
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jeremy said:
classic stack + bridge model in the neck, classic stack middle in the middle. totally can be wired that way. you'll need to split the bridge and middle pups to keep it humcancelling
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I just found out my wiring does split the bridge to work with the middle in position 2! So, I just have to find the right bridge. I'll be comparing the patb-3 and PG soon. I am also going to try my BBQ and an Air Zone after these.

The stock Fender Texas specials are OK, but quiet!
 
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Well Jeremy, I picked up a Trembucker Blues Sarasceno but won't get it installed till the new pickguard arrives. I might also try a CC if I need more heat...but these days I apreciate medium output for everything I do clean to mean! I get the balls and heat from the amp.

I am not sure on the Rio BBQ. I tried it again in my LP and I am finding it might be too much shifted to the low end.
 
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jeremy said:
patb3

hot paf type tone that is nice and fat, sounds good clean, great sustain
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Would you still recommend this for classic rock and hard rock? I am a hard rock/metal and classic rock guy....nothing lighter than that too often. But, I find ANY pickup can work for heavy rock with the RIGHT amp, don't you agree? I say that because I saw you recommend the CC for someone using a fat strat for hard rock.

What about the Brobucker? then again, honestly I think the PATB-3 would be similar to the Brobucker if you look at the stats!
 
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the patb3 is right up the top of my "rare awesome duncans to hunt down and try" list

i believe the pole mag structure and shape of the bobbins are going to give you what you neeeed-ah; i'll be quite surprised if you favour the CC to it, and i love the CC

EDIT - didn't that weird plaid guy get the PATB3 designed to make a strat sound like an LP but keep the clarity? apparently the PATB1 wasn't enough, in his guitars?
 
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dr. ad said:
the patb3 is right up the top of my "rare awesome duncans to hunt down and try" list

i believe the pole mag structure and shape of the bobbins are going to give you what you neeeed-ah; i'll be quite surprised if you favour the CC to it, and i love the CC

EDIT - didn't that weird plaid guy get the PATB3 designed to make a strat sound like an LP but keep the clarity? apparently the PATB1 wasn't enough, in his guitars?
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Can't wait to try it! I just don't think I want stacked singles in the single slots. I think I want some hot noiseless singles or even regular Duncan singles. I found out right now it has no name Fender singles.
 
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it may well be fine how it is.
there's nothing really wrong with fender single coils in a strat, and there'll probably be considerable scope to adjust pickup heights and get all the tones you want via switching.
i don't trust anything stacked either (never tried it) - i'd try the lace 'side-winder' and maybe alumitones out tho

i'm starting to GAS pretty hard re making a warmoth super-strat, after reading a couple threads like these
eventually i want to try all the bridge PATBs and perhaps get one made in the custom shop...
 
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dr. ad said:
it may well be fine how it is.
there's nothing really wrong with fender single coils in a strat, and there'll probably be considerable scope to adjust pickup heights and get all the tones you want via switching.
i don't trust anything stacked either (never tried it) - i'd try the lace 'side-winder' and maybe alumitones out tho

i'm starting to GAS pretty hard re making a warmoth super-strat, after reading a couple threads like these
eventually i want to try all the bridge PATBs and perhaps get one made in the custom shop...
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Thanks...but I used to use Fender Hot Noiseless in a strat and loved them! But, they are only white covers. :(
However, I don't know how they'd work in this case. I actually don't have experience with reguylar non-noiseless singles but a friend recommended the Duncan SSL-1 as the top pick with either the PG or PATB3.

If none of this works I am trying Rio Grande pickups.
 
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How do you say it does one trick? It is great clean, crunch, high gain and lead. :scratchch

jeremy said:
if you have the choice, get trem spaced but it doesnt matter all that much.

the classic stack + is a stacked humbucker that sounds very much like a vintage single coil. it is easy to split with the humbucker.

the bbq is a fat sounding pup but not one that i like, it does one trick well and i need more than that.
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Opening old thread.

I am trying a bunch now. Duncan Parallel Axis, Custom Custom, Rio BBQ, Suhr pickups, Dimarzio Air Zone and AT-1.
 
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I have a custom and a custom 8 in a strat type guitar they work great. I see you considered custom custom that will not work it will sound wery weak. Dont overlook the custom because of the ceramic magnet (I did) But tried it and it sounds fantastic.
 
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