Blackstar HT-5H Question

[Bfeeney]

I'm considering getting this amp (or the Vox Lil Night Train) and I see that it has an ECC83 and a 12BH7 tube. I looked at The Tube Store and they're both listed under preamp tubes. My question(s) is is there no power tubes and is this a hybrid?

While I have your attention, which would you pick out of the Blackstar and Vox. I play rock/80's metal.

 

[Chris of Arabia]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

I've got a Lil Night Train, and it's definitely all valve, it just uses the 12BH7 as a power tube, that's why the output power is as low as it is. As for doing metal, as nice as the Lil Night Train is, I'd go with the Blackstar.

 

[jmh151]

The 12 bh7 is a very low power power tube, they found a tube and design that was better at getting cranked tube tone at lower levels. The ecc 83 is the preamp tube

 

[jmh151]

The ht5 does a good metal tone if you put an eq in the loop and a booster like a tube screamer in front

 

[Left_Hand_Strat]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

Get the blackstar.

if you want metal at a nice bedroom ish level with a nice budget price tag it's for you.

I have never tried the eq in the amp but what I will say is definitely get one. I nearly bought a Vox Lil' night train myself, but when I played through one I was very disappointed for what I wanted. The blackstar has plenty of balls about it for a 5 watter.

I also swapped out the ECC83 for an EH gold pin tube, I am yet to replace the power tube. trust me the EH tubes are great in this amp. they add a lot more clarity to your sound but help give killer distortion.

Also with the ISF you can pretty much nail the majority of USA and British amp tones.

 

[Bfeeney]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

I'm definately leaning toward the Blackstar mainly because it's 5 watts instead of 2. I would like to get a little cleans out of it so I figure go with the high watt out of the two. I also like the 3 band EQ instead of the 2 on the Vox. Both has a headphone jack which will come in handy sometimes at my apt.

I found I can get a used NT-5H on Ebay for the same price MF is charging for the Vox which is good, I can look at the product and not the price now.

 

[Left_Hand_Strat]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

the blackstar clean channel can be quite nice too, you just need to get used to a different EQ for cleans as to what you would use for distortion

 

[alteredbeast]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

The ht5 does a good metal tone if you put an eq in the loop and a booster like a tube screamer in front

YES.

 

[SAVAGE DISTORTION]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

I am also really considering the blackstar H5-R mini stack?
I am torn between it and the peavey 6505+ 1x12?

 

[SAVAGE DISTORTION]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

The ht5 does a good metal tone if you put an eq in the loop and a booster like a tube screamer in front

This guy gets a really good tone without any of that?

 

[alteredbeast]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

This guy gets a really good tone without any of that?

Yes he does, the difference with the eq and screamer is just flat out bonkers tho, especially for more articulated riffage.

 

[SAVAGE DISTORTION]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

Yes he does, the difference with the eq and screamer is just flat out bonkers tho, especially for more articulated riffage.

cool good to know cause i am really leaning towards grabbin the H5mini stack for my at home amp?


the peavey i was looking at sounds too much like paper ripping or something?

 

[Bfeeney]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

Well it's Blackstar for me!

 

[SAVAGE DISTORTION]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

Well it's Blackstar for me!

heres another reason not that you need it:biglaugh::fing2:

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

Never mind the Blackstar mini stack. Try a HT-5H through a 4x12" cabinet.

 

[SAVAGE DISTORTION]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

Never mind the Blackstar mini stack. Try a HT-5H through a 4x12" cabinet.

in the bedroom?:smack::laugh2:

 

[Left_Hand_Strat]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

in the bedroom?:smack::laugh2:

if you have the room, yeah.

 

[Jeff5]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

Even without an EQ in the loop it's a great little amp. Add the EQ though and it's just nuts. I have a tubescreamer in front too. Lots of tonal options from a metal/higher gain standpoint. The clean channel is decent too, but that's probably not what you buy an amp like this for =).

 

[Franknfilms]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

I run my blackstar ht5-Rh through my 2x12. It is loud as hell. Haven't had a chance to play with a drummer yet, but I'm not worried at all, at least for the sake of practice. I can do whatever I want with this amp, there haven't really been any limitations so far. Of course, I do notice the difference in headroom compared to my 40 watt xxx. I don't know why anyone would by that blackstar mini-stack of 1x10 cabinets, just get an affordable used 2x12 or 4x12 cabinet for about the same price.

 

[Bfeeney]

Re: Blackstar HT-5H Question

Never mind the Blackstar mini stack. Try a HT-5H through a 4x12" cabinet.

I was thinking about doing a two 1-12 stack. One would have the V30 and the other would have the G12T-75