Rodney Gene
O.G.
Re: Blog: New Guitars--Pristine or Relic? Battle Royale!
Ah...the forum culture again! Some things we don't miss! Thank you. This will be my last entry to this thread.
Honestly this is what I get for joining in the conversation LOL!
Blueman, your commentary on the credibility and mindset of accomplished musicians is silly. It continues to remove any 'street cred' you yourself may be trying to establish. The humans/musicians you choose to diminish as 'posers' are as 'real of a deal' as it gets. 'Posturing' comes in many forms. Any self appointed authority on the validity of other players has no validity in and of itself. This dialogue is not about credibility.
Kid myself? Outside of the forum world, every professional I know enjoys playing all manner of gear and any debate about gear/personal credibility is an instant non-issue. I get you have your opinions, its cool. Diminishing the qualifications of 'experts' like Clive Brown steps any commentary you make to the back of the line though. As you said, there will always be a difference between real and fake. I agree on many levels and I find them easy to spot.
Cheers and respect,
RG
Ah...the forum culture again! Some things we don't miss! Thank you. This will be my last entry to this thread.
Honestly this is what I get for joining in the conversation LOL!
Blueman, your commentary on the credibility and mindset of accomplished musicians is silly. It continues to remove any 'street cred' you yourself may be trying to establish. The humans/musicians you choose to diminish as 'posers' are as 'real of a deal' as it gets. 'Posturing' comes in many forms. Any self appointed authority on the validity of other players has no validity in and of itself. This dialogue is not about credibility.
Nope. While that may be a momentary by-product that has never been the point. But it seems like it is important to you. Auto-biographical perspectives don't work for other people though. Words on a forum are never clear at best but it seems as if you feel that in order for yourself to maintain 'authenticity' or 'genuine' credibility, then you couldn't play or be seen playing a vintage replica. It would make you 'fake'. So cool. That's you. You get to keep that 'Keeping it real' perspective. That part is valid. However, not all players have 'credibility' issues or insecurity about what they play and 'keeping it real' means something else. That is also valid. They find their validation in actually playing and having a career. They have no real front, that's the point. Who in the world is there to front to? Our forum 'buddies'? Guitar store employees? Our wife? Guys down at the Blues club? Where? There is no 'where' for a professional to front. Maybe a hobbyist can impress his friends over beers and a BBQ. But otherwise it doesn't exist. All is revealed when the playing starts anyway doesn't it? Of course. At that point gear is irrelevant.
Pretend what? Pretend coolness? Pretend 'in the know player'? Its a finish. Its a process. Its just a guitar. Why buy Antiquities? Why recommend them? Are they fake pickups? Goodness. Its about play-ability and tone and vibe and feel and enjoyment and options and expression. Its about all of it. Maybe some guy want to looks 'vintagy and cool and...'? Good for him. Is he pretend? Again pretend what? And to whom?... One conversation with him and the 'front' is shattered. LOL!
Goodness. Savvy? LOL. Who Vince Gill? No offense, but good players have plenty of savvy already. Again it seems as if you yourself are using gear for a validation measure (the non-relic real stuff), the 'real stuff'. That's how you stay 'valid' keeping an image of non-relic or 'real' stuff. That is perfectly cool. It doesnt apply to all of us though. Why would it? These 'players' play all types from vintage to custom to production line. They like the feel and function of a great guitar no matter how it comes about. If they (we, I) like the look as well, then even better right. My friend Redd has more vintage guitars and amps than anybody I know (Sans Seymour). Check out is vids online, they are everywhere. 'Validation' is not an issue here unless you count when when he plays his 1990s Peavey Nashville amp. That's gotta impress somebody. He just loves great guitars. He lets his playing and tone do the validating. Isn't that more 'cred'? LOL. He also owns a custom Nacho with a Clive Brown neck. Maybe you can come down to Austin and join him onstage and compare 'authenticity'? Honestly, you can come here to the studio and record a session with me anytime. That's a real offer.
Posing where? Here on the forum? Posturing in the studio? Posturing doesn't produce results Blueman. Fake what? Fake tone? Fake playing? Is it not a real guitar? What? LOL! How do we describe the 'fakeness'. Status? Again with whom? The rest of the band? No. The audience? No (They don't know any better). Your peers? No. Where then? With whom? Here? Who is there to impress? When do we get to cash in on this 'status' It doesn't exist in real-life.
Kid myself? Outside of the forum world, every professional I know enjoys playing all manner of gear and any debate about gear/personal credibility is an instant non-issue. I get you have your opinions, its cool. Diminishing the qualifications of 'experts' like Clive Brown steps any commentary you make to the back of the line though. As you said, there will always be a difference between real and fake. I agree on many levels and I find them easy to spot.
Cheers and respect,
RG
