Brobucker selling rules?

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Both good points.

I just don't understand why everyone is so uncool with it. Maybe that's my big disconnect. But, like I said, those are both good points.

And thank you both for being civil. :) I'm really trying not to step on toes. I guess I just don't understand - something.
 
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I'm sorry fellas, the stipulation was that we could not sell it as new to turn a profit. There was never any stipulation on what you could sell it for used a year later if you so chose. The point was to prevent vultures from buying cheap and going long taking advantage of the discount strictly to turn a buck. That is not the case here. Some of you seem to have made up rules along the way.

He can sell it for whatever he can get for it and is not breaking any part of the deal.
 
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I think that is only part of our point.

Al bought the pup at the unwritten "forum bro price" from a seller who could have sold it for more himself probably. However, turning around and selling it for a profit to another forum member is just poor taste.

There is no rule being broken here, just bad karma.

If the pup is not working for you or you need the cash, then "pay it forward" to another forum bro at the same price. I can't stress how that will come back to you.
 
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I agree 100% with Ayrton.

If you're one of those who never ventures further than the Trading Post, go ahead and do whatever. Your presence is strictly business, and nobody would notice if you quit posting.

Turning a profit of Forum bros pretty much means you're either in the above mentioned category, or you're a jerk with no class.
 
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Hmm. Thanks for the input Chris, I appreciate it.

I don't understand why that unwritten rule is there, but I don't intend to trounce on it either.
 
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BigAlTheBird said:
I don't understand why that unwritten rule is there, but I don't intend to trounce on it either.
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Why? Because most of us have known each other for years, and try to hook each other up.

If you'd bought the pickup elsewhere, it wouldn't be a big deal. However, you bought it from a forum member. Selling it to another forum member for more than you paid is pretty low.
 
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Personally, I have bought and traded a ton of stuff on alot of different forums, with the sole intentions of turning a profit on them. Especially when work was slow and that was the only money coming in to support my family. If I got something from someone, I was upfront and told them, hey I'm getting this to resell, most never had a problem with it, some stuff I bought for myself just to try, and didn't like, then turned a profit, because unless it was just something I knew I wanted, I always bought cheap.


Bottom line is if dude is in need of money and can turn a profit, why should you all hate on him. It isn't like he misled the original seller, just to get it cheap and resell it. He likes the pup, gonna replace it when better financial times hit. It's a tuff world, bro needs cash, and he's selling somehting he don't want to part with to get it. I see no bad karma there.
 
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Do what you want, man. It's your pickup. Just don't turn this place into Harmony Central or one of the above mentioned other forums.
 
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Al, I don't want you think I am "hating" on you, just giving you my opinion.

I too buy and sell plenty of parts, and at a profit. However, I would not buy a "forum special" item, and then try and turn a profit in the same forum.

As JB has written, most here know each other and some try and help a friend when needed (I have offered free parts, and just received a free guitar case), and that is what I am trying to make you understand.

How would it look if I offered the free Fender guitar case I got here up for sale in the classifieds? Starting to see my view?

If you want to sell it for more money, then take it to ebay.
 
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I'll tell you what, some of the venom coming from some of the supposed forum bros here is completely f_cked. If you guys think it's a boys club here with a need to be considered cool, then you're losers. Being uncool is supposed to be a deterrent? Please. I've been on these forums as long as anybody, like three bulletin boards ago and many years, I also was one of the original modders who threw an A5 magnet into a custom and called it a C3 or CCC before the C5 even came along and I don't buy the cool bro sh!t one bit. This is the first time in all these years I've taken any issue on this board and I have to say this is some serious bullsh!t right here. If you want to buy his pickup, take it to PM and work it out, if not then how about a cup of STFU? Risk being uncool.....juvenile.
 
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TattooedCarrot said:
I'll tell you what, some of the venom coming from some of the supposed forum bros here is completely f_cked. If you guys think it's a boys club here with a need to be considered cool, then you're losers. Being uncool is supposed to be a deterrent? Please. I've been on these forums as long as anybody, like three bulletin boards ago and many years, I also was one of the original modders who threw an A5 magnet into a custom and called it a C3 or CCC before the C5 even came along and I don't buy the cool bro sh!t one bit. This is the first time in all these years I've taken any issue on this board and I have to say this is some serious bullsh!t right here. If you want to buy his pickup, take it to PM and work it out, if not then how about a cup of STFU? Risk being uncool.....juvenile.
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So what you're saying is essentially that it was the original buyers problem that he couldn't ask more than 105 for the pup and it's Al's bidness what he want's to charge because he's not the original buyer right?

I can understand what you're saying, but the thing is that it makes Al look like a royal douche-rocket when he sells an original run in the place where he bought it, on the site of the company that hooked up the guys....for a profit. It makes it appear as if he bought the pup to try to do this.

As a sig on TGP says...
I ain't sayin...I'm jus sayin...

I don't know what you're takin issue with man. Lots of guys sell stuff to make some money, everyone here realizes that. The thing is we're not talking about a LP someone's bro-in-law got them a deal on.

Luke
 
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You all make very fair points. Really.

Chris, I make profits selling to forum bros all the time, but this case is different. I get that.

Lucid, thank you.

Ayr, I know you're not hating on me and we're cool bro. This is a tricky topic. I won't take it to eBay, as I think it should stay in the 'family.' I'm still of the mindset that the $100 cap (even the spirit of it) should be done away with. But I'm not going to piss everyone off just to make a few bucks.

Carrot, thank you too.

Luke, I've always liked you man. But you've been pretty, umm, straightforward in this thread. I can handle it, and I'm not gonna lose any sleep tonight, but I don't think I'm as much of an ass as you might be thinking at the moment. I just need money for a car, and yeah $30 here and there adds up fast.

And if you (anybody) think I bought this pickup with the idea to sell it, well then you're an idiot. Because I'm in love with this pickup, I was in love with my 1954 Gretsch amp that I sold yesterday for $1,000, and I'm in love with the guitar I'll be selling later this week. Life happens sometimes, and I can't control that. But I can control how much money I make in the process. Like I said, I bought that amp for $200 and sold it 8 weeks later for $1,000. I don't feel bad about that. Sucks for the guy who sold it to me, but he was comfortable getting rid of it for $200. Not my problem.

That said, I don't want to piss everyone here off at once. I'm not really in the mood for that.
 
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BigAlTheBird said:
Luke, I've always liked you man. But you've been pretty, umm, straightforward in this thread. I can handle it, and I'm not gonna lose any sleep tonight, but I don't think I'm as much of an ass as you might be thinking at the moment.
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I'm just not an advocate of stepping in it you know man?

The only thing I'm trying to do for you is try to keep you from having another incident like you did in the Skarekrough banning thread.

I mean I had the pup, I thought it was cool, but in the end I wanted A2. No harm no foul. I sold it for the same price I bought it for. It has also seemed at the time like Evan wanted to keep these pups, which he invariably knew would end up being sold, circulating in the forum family, and at a "decent" price. I say that because EVERYBODY involved in the original project b!tched about the CS prices.

If you want to make money it's your business....but don't be surprised if you have some dude's giving you the cold shoulder ya know?

Luke
 
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But the incident in Skarey's vacation thread turned out to be hilarious and we can all sit around and drink beers and laugh about it now. Why wouldn't I want that to happen again? :)

About Evan, I am keeping this in the family. And I would be selling it for a decent price. So that point didn't make a whole lot of sense.

From my point of view, I couldn't give two craps about what anybody else does with their money, their property, their guitars, their selling strategies/mechanics, anything. What you do, as long as it's legal, is fine with me. That basically goes through life. I don't like legislating people. Not to make this political, but I hate telling people what to do, and being told what to do - to a certain extent. Obviously there's a line, I'm not saying there should be no laws about anything.

I just don't understand micromanagement. Most people seem to love it, and that's just not me. Rules and laws are fine, but sometimes they go too far.
 
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BigAlTheBird said:
About Evan, I am keeping this in the family. And I would be selling it for a decent price. So that point didn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Again you need to consider the original context....and by decent I mean around the cost of regular line SDs like Seths/PGs

I just don't understand micromanagement. Most people seem to love it, and that's just not me. Rules and laws are fine, but sometimes they go too far.
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Micromanagement and trying to keep the peace aren't the same thing man.

Al, best of the luck selling the pup man. I also wish you luck with the car.

Luke
 
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Luke Duke said:
Again you need to consider the original context....and by decent I mean around the cost of regular line SDs like Seths/PGs
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Fair point. Then again those run $80-$100, I hardly think paying $120 for something as good as the BB is drastically more. But I do get your point.

Luke Duke said:
Micromanagement and trying to keep the peace aren't the same thing man.

Best of the luck selling the pup man and good luck with the car.

Luke
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I get what you're saying. That was a little rant there that has little to do with this thread, but hey, it's my thread and I'll do what I want! It had more to do with *censored.* I just don't like superfluous laws that are there to "help." We can take care of ourselves without much outside help.

Thanks for your wishes. I'll most likely sell at the normal price - I don't want to ruffle feathers. The entire spirit of this thread was initially "I don't want to ruffle feathers." But I'm so bad at not pissing people off, that even a thread for the express purpose of the opposite can change in a heartbeat.

That said, I still think it's time you all do away with the unwritten bro rule. But it's not necessarily my place to singlehandedly overturn it.
 
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I honestly can't respect someone for doing something like this. Picking a good deal and turning it on eBay or to some unknown person is one thing, but saying you'll obey some non-existent rules which wouldn't even be enforceable but that generally just represent the original intent of the deal, then turning around and violating the spirit of the agreement upon realizing that no such rules exist is hypocritical. The Brobucker was created as something special for the forum, and IIRC there were other people trying to buy it a few weeks ago when you got it, meaning you're likely just making one of them pay ~$25 more because you sent a PM quicker than they did.

Why wouldn't you look at it as an opportunity to try out a nice piece of gear for pretty much however long you wanted without losing anything on resale, rather than trying to make money off of people that have been helpful and kind to you for quite sometime and who gave you the opportunity in the first place?

I'm not saying anyone can do anything to stop you, I'm saying that they shouldn't have to.
 
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Ayrton said:
I think that is only part of our point.

Al bought the pup at the unwritten "forum bro price" from a seller who could have sold it for more himself probably. However, turning around and selling it for a profit to another forum member is just poor taste.

There is no rule being broken here, just bad karma.

If the pup is not working for you or you need the cash, then "pay it forward" to another forum bro at the same price. I can't stress how that will come back to you.
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Why was the original seller obligated to sell at a lower price? If it was used/played etc and not in new condition/new in the box he was free to sell it at market price. The rules and obligations were met.

I'm really not understanding all of the new age Karma stuff. You guys are starting to sound like vegetarians who eat chicken. All the "rules", urban legend and myth that have been built up around this is dumbfounding. Where is this coming from?
 
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