Casters, are they tone robbers?

[mrfunnyman]

I just last week got a new Crate V50 Palomino 2x12 combo, and it came with casters, I've never had an amp that had caster's and I was just wondering will the amp have a diff sound with the caster's on compared to if the amp was just sitting on the floor w/o the casters on it?

 

[jeremy]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

yes it will, just like if you put the amp on a stand or something else. when it it coupled with the floor it will have a deeper but possibly more indistinct bottom end. not really better or worse but different.

 

[ImmortalSix]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

will the amp have a diff sound with the caster's on compared to if the amp was just sitting on the floor w/o the casters on it?

Definitely

 

[drew_half_empty]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

yeah for sure

but if you do that make sure you get some rubber feet, amps that sit on metal bottoms may as well be on casters (to my ears)

 

[kevlar3000]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

I tend to dig casters on big closed cabs, and like the floor with open back cabs or combos.

 

[korovamilkdud]

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I find casters give a bit more "mobility" to my tone.

 

[LesStrat]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

Casters providing more moving music.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

No casters are spine robbers. lol

 

[d1dsj]

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Castors... smashters... blasters! Be honest, most of you on;ly have cabs with castors because you ain't got TELEcastOrs or STRATOcastOrs!!

Sorry, couldn't help it. Seriously now, my Orange cab has the wooden runners on the bottom and when I first got it I used it with no castors (ha ha.. nocastor!) and it's such an heavey S.O.B I fitted some. I couldn't really hear any difference as it's such a BIG sounding cab anyway. I prefer it with them 'coz it's a back breaker!

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

yes it will, just like if you put the amp on a stand or something else. when it it coupled with the floor it will have a deeper but possibly more indistinct bottom end. not really better or worse but different.

That was always my theory, I've yet to try it, but since I live on a 4th floor with no elevator I dont see myself removing the casters from a 1960A 4X12 'till I move.

 

[lex666]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

Look online... I think some places sell pop-out or removeable casters. best of both worlds.

 

[guitarded]

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After seeing a similar thread I started laying my cab on it's side at the studio, and as result, I am noticing a lot more bottom end to my sound. My other guitarist noticed as well. Hard to draw conclusion for sure because it is a slant cab, so what sounds like a bigger bottom, can actually be less top end due to speakers no longer aimed at my ears

yes it will, just like if you put the amp on a stand or something else. when it it coupled with the floor it will have a deeper but possibly more indistinct bottom end. not really better or worse but different.

 

[3'scompany]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

If you're that worried about your tone, get road cases. If it doesn't sound good enough encased in wood and foam when it is on its wheels, you can always throw it on its side and not worry about effing up your cab.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

After seeing a similar thread I started laying my cab on it's side at the studio, and as result, I am noticing a lot more bottom end to my sound. My other guitarist noticed as well. Hard to draw conclusion for sure because it is a slant cab, so what sounds like a bigger bottom, can actually be less top end due to speakers no longer aimed at my ears

Speaking of ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OvpMgYc4ac&feature=related

 

[Kosh Naranek]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

This question is not quite as tone-geeky as "Does the brand of battery I use in my pedals change my tone?" but it's getting close.

If it's a big concern with you, you should know that Auralex even makes a product, a foam pad that you set you amp or speaker cab on, that isolates your amp from the floor to prevent vibrations from being transmitted from your speaker cab through the floor. Get one, and you will hear only the pure tone of your amp, unaffected by its environment. Oh wait, that's not quite true. You must deaden all reverberation off the walls of the room you have your amp in, since those also change the tone that ends up reaching your ears.

My.02: In a studio, you often just put a mic up to the grille cloth of your speaker, so the mic isn't gonna pick up much of what the floor and rest of the room is doing to the tone of your amp. In your living room or bedroom, enjoy the whole tone experience - the amp, the walls, the floor, the furniture... just play!

 

[PVFan]

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a foam pad that you set you amp or speaker cab on, that isolates your amp from the floor to prevent vibrations from being transmitted from your speaker cab through the floor.

I do that, but with couch foam and plywood on top, with the cab's wheels off, so the thing doesn't roll off the foam and dump the amp head due to a machine gun riff. Except I use the foam so I don't shake my house apart, not for tone.

 

[wanmei1]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

Castors will alter the sound as will wooden blocks fitted under the cabinet or foam or even metal cones as used in mounting some studio / home monitor speakers.
Metal spikes are the most efficent way of transferring energy, so by fitting them to the base of a cab or combo these will transfer the energy of the vibrating box through to the floor.
The idea is that the speakers vibration that is passed on to the enclosure should be transferred away from the enclosure to the floor for less coloration of the sound being produced.
This will result in a cleaner tighter sound with a more pronounced, accurate and taught bass with less coloration.
This is no different to hi-fi stereo speakers particularly those speakers that are mounted on stands.
However,.... you may not like the sound produced via spikes as much as without out.
Try and see.

 

[lex666]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

Castors will alter the sound as will wooden blocks fitted under the cabinet or foam or even metal cones as used in mounting some studio / home monitor speakers.
Metal spikes are the most efficent way of transferring energy, so by fitting them to the base of a cab or combo these will transfer the energy of the vibrating box through to the floor.
The idea is that the speakers vibration that is passed on to the enclosure should be transferred away from the enclosure to the floor for less coloration of the sound being produced.
This will result in a cleaner tighter sound with a more pronounced, accurate and taught bass with less coloration.
This is no different to hi-fi stereo speakers particularly those speakers that are mounted on stands.
However,.... you may not like the sound produced via spikes as much as without out.
Try and see.

Oh man, I thought metal spikes and cones like the ones used in home theater were supposed to isolate the sound and prevent the transfer of unwanted vibrations. Cones and spikes have less surface area contacting the floor, etc. therefore less energy/vibration is transferred.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

Buy a set of chains...hoist it up in the air

 

[guitarded]

Re: Casters, are they tone robbers?

Buy a set of chains...hoist it up in the air

Didn't Ace do that? Maybe it was just the guitar :14: