Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .

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beaubrummels said:
I'd just like to say - the earth is flat, ...and round. Like my strings. ...Until my mood changes. Then my strings will be round ...and round too.

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Go tell it on the mountain. Over the guitar stores and everywhere.
 
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Wood doesn't matter... I still sound like crap...

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Who has the guts to take this one step further, and say that amps don't matter? Now THERE is a chance to be at the avant-garde!
 
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Sirion said:
Who has the guts to take this one step further, and say that amps don't matter? Now THERE is a chance to be at the avant-garde!
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Amps don't matter... I still sound like crap...

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^^ :biglaugh:
 
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Mincer said:
If you don't know what to think, and that bothers you, do more research. I always go with personal experience rather than some guys on the internet.
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A year later, if you don't understand my point, the is no point in explaining it to you. I can hear the difference. I have a decades of real experience.

In the end, it doesn't matter what guitar, or pickups, or amp you're using that for matters. It's about the songs.

No one but other guitarists care about the tone quest. If you're in your basement/shed/guest bedroom, have it. But people who play out know the perfect tone in your "room" doesn't mean **** on stage.

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Part of the reason the debate rages on and on is the fact that not all ears are alike...

And another reason is, as LewGuitar mentioned, not everyone uses the same amount of distortion.

And personally, I don't take any stock in any luthiers' opinions on the matter - they're woodworking experts, not audio experts.
 
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Bodeanicus said:
A year later, if you don't understand my point, the is no point in explaining it to you. I can hear the difference. I have a decades of real experience.

In the end, it doesn't matter what guitar, or pickups, or amp you're using that for matters. It's about the songs.

No one but other guitarists care about the tone quest. If you're in your basement/shed/guest bedroom, have it. But people who play out know the perfect tone in your "room" doesn't mean **** on stage.

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I am not sure why this is directed at me, being a professional musician and all. I have a ton of live and recording experience, so I don't dismiss experience over some guy on the internet.
 
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Goofy debate turning goofy lol, who woodv'e thunk?



Of course there are subtle to not-so-subtle changes in tone and timbre when comparing instruments of different materials and construction.
How subtle or not-so-subtle they are by the time the amplified signal hits the world is the only possible thing to debate here, and even that's a waste of time to debate since we all use different gear and settings.
 
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Here's what I say, we live in world with modeling amps with hundreds of presets at modest prices, pedals so diverse and precise that even big box stores are selling pedals with upwards of 8 knobs just to control delay, and countless varieties of pickups. All that considered, in the end, any tonal change that wood does or doesn't impart can easily be compensated for somewhere else in the chain.

Does the alder body on your Strat sound too scooped through your Twin Reverb? Put an Alnico II Pro for Strat in there, or buy a midboost, try heavier strings of a different composition, and/or fiddle with your amps's controls. There is no reason in this day and age that you can't get the sound you want just because your guitar came from the wrong forest.
 
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There are so many variables. One piece of mahogany can be heavier than another therefore could resonate and sound differently.

The other day, i noticed that all my fav guitars have bolt-on necks. I had considered posting about it on the internet but then i realized it could be a bit ignorant/misguided without also noticing/mentioning that all of my fav sounding guitars happen to have singlecoil pickups.

Seems to be a little more difficult than a+b=c
 
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Open lane said:
There are so many variables. One piece of mahogany can be heavier than another therefore could resonate and sound differently.

The other day, i noticed that all my fav guitars have bolt-on necks. I had considered posting about it on the internet but then i realized it could be a bit ignorant/misguided without also noticing/mentioning that all of my fav sounding guitars happen to have singlecoil pickups.

Seems to be a little more difficult than a+b=c
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True dat. Some people say they don't like mahogany guitars, not realizing their only experience with that particular wood is on Gibsons. Maybe what they really don't like is humbuckers, the shorter scale, or maybe even things that don't contribute to tone, but they don't like.
 
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I didn't read through all of this, but I know a smidgeon about this. Energy through the strings is lost into the rest of the guitar. What frequencies are transmitted the most depend on the guitars natural frequency. Beyond geometry natural frequency is dependent on mass, stiffness, and inherent damping. Yes the wood will make a difference, how much? Hard to say, I think as a player it gives some feedback you feel that can inspire you but I'm not sure just how much difference an audience would hear from two identical guitars except for the wood. I also suspect that even different sections of the same tree will have different properties which would explain a lot of the variability we see in the same model guitar.

Another fun piece of information: a study in France pretty conclusively proved that bolt on necks have more sustain ....... wait for it ........ for most notes, however some notes have hardly any sustain. I suspect the notes with hardly any sustain is because all the energy goes straight into the body and out of the strings.

https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00810874/document
 
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Chistopher said:
Here's what I say, we live in world with modeling amps with hundreds of presets at modest prices, pedals so diverse and precise that even big box stores are selling pedals with upwards of 8 knobs just to control delay, and countless varieties of pickups. All that considered, in the end, any tonal change that wood does or doesn't impart can easily be compensated for somewhere else in the chain.

Does the alder body on your Strat sound too scooped through your Twin Reverb? Put an Alnico II Pro for Strat in there, or buy a midboost, try heavier strings of a different composition, and/or fiddle with your amps's controls. There is no reason in this day and age that you can't get the sound you want just because your guitar came from the wrong forest.
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I can't deal unless I'm happy with every component on my guitar. I didn't spend years perfecting my guitar so I can have wood that sounds like crap and then put effects on it. The effect that wood has on the ampd tone is so easy to hear it's ridiculous. The fact that there's variation within species, you don't care, people are deaf stupid and have the distortion box on 24/7 is irrelevant.
 
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