Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
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Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
There's one issue with this whole matter, it's damn hard to find two guitars that are identical in every way other than the wood. You'd think it would be a more popular idea, more personalization for the consumer, kinda like how Strats for example let you pick the fretboard wood without having to choose a different model or year.
There's one issue with this whole matter, it's damn hard to find two guitars that are identical in every way other than the wood. You'd think it would be a more popular idea, more personalization for the consumer, kinda like how Strats for example let you pick the fretboard wood without having to choose a different model or year.
Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
Its damn hard...kinda like strats for example?
Oh wait, i know i know me me teacher please call on me!!!
"Like strats on a guitar store wall. Same model same year, just ash vs alder or maple FB vs rosewood FB... For example."
....gold star for me?
Its damn hard...kinda like strats for example?
Oh wait, i know i know me me teacher please call on me!!!
"Like strats on a guitar store wall. Same model same year, just ash vs alder or maple FB vs rosewood FB... For example."
....gold star for me?
justFred
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Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
The experimental solution to the tone wood question:
get one block of wood in the general dimensions of an electric guitar;
one ball of string;
two nails;
one hammer (preferably a good sized framing hammer).
hang above wood with string and two nails at about the playing height of guitar.
hit wood with hammer and listen.
hit yourself on the head with hammer and listen.
repeat process until you either hear or don't hear a difference.
report back with results. If there are enough experiments performed a pole thread will be set up to collect data.
The experimental solution to the tone wood question:
get one block of wood in the general dimensions of an electric guitar;
one ball of string;
two nails;
one hammer (preferably a good sized framing hammer).
hang above wood with string and two nails at about the playing height of guitar.
hit wood with hammer and listen.
hit yourself on the head with hammer and listen.
repeat process until you either hear or don't hear a difference.
report back with results. If there are enough experiments performed a pole thread will be set up to collect data.
Open lane
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Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
i’m willing to bet that if any part of a guitar is affected by the “tonewood,” the make and construction of the neck most likely has a big effect. I say this because on all of my guitars, to some degree, i can feel them resonating with my hand. The body on one of my strats resonates completely all over when playing a note. And on a couple of my cheaper guitars, i only feel the bodies resonate a little bit if at all. But again, i feel the necks vibrate on all of them. Imo, the vibrations of the woods likely play a role in the way the guitar sounds. It’s sorta hard to **prove** with so many variables, but in theory, it seems obvious to me.
i’m willing to bet that if any part of a guitar is affected by the “tonewood,” the make and construction of the neck most likely has a big effect. I say this because on all of my guitars, to some degree, i can feel them resonating with my hand. The body on one of my strats resonates completely all over when playing a note. And on a couple of my cheaper guitars, i only feel the bodies resonate a little bit if at all. But again, i feel the necks vibrate on all of them. Imo, the vibrations of the woods likely play a role in the way the guitar sounds. It’s sorta hard to **prove** with so many variables, but in theory, it seems obvious to me.
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justFred
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Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
The experimental solution II to the tone wood question:
install a pickup on the back of solid body guitar on the other side of the neck pickup;
wire pickup to output jack and plug into amp;
the pickup should only be hearing sound that is in someway related to wood vibration;
strum away and listen.
what do you hear? is it loud enough to be significant compared to pickups located under the strings?
if anything it should be a result of wood vibration entering into the tone chain.
The experimental solution II to the tone wood question:
install a pickup on the back of solid body guitar on the other side of the neck pickup;
wire pickup to output jack and plug into amp;
the pickup should only be hearing sound that is in someway related to wood vibration;
strum away and listen.
what do you hear? is it loud enough to be significant compared to pickups located under the strings?
if anything it should be a result of wood vibration entering into the tone chain.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
That doesn't account for the wood vibrating affecting the vibration of the string.
That doesn't account for the wood vibrating affecting the vibration of the string.
justFred
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Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
then you should continue with experiment I.
then you should continue with experiment I.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
Whoever resurrected this thread has a small pee pee.
Whoever resurrected this thread has a small pee pee.
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Little Pigbacon
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Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
GNDN threads like this should be nuked as a matter of course.
GNDN threads like this should be nuked as a matter of course.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
What about the scale length? That's a bigger deal than wood. Also an undoubtedly less than perfect fit could also mask whether or not the test was accurate.
What about the scale length? That's a bigger deal than wood. Also an undoubtedly less than perfect fit could also mask whether or not the test was accurate.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
As long as y'all remain civil, I'll allow it. At this point, like on many forums/articles, there isn't a scientific percentage. Some people hear things, some don't. I maintain that an electric guitar is a system, and every element in the construction (natural or not) has some percentage in the overall sound. I can't put any of this to a number, though.
As long as y'all remain civil, I'll allow it. At this point, like on many forums/articles, there isn't a scientific percentage. Some people hear things, some don't. I maintain that an electric guitar is a system, and every element in the construction (natural or not) has some percentage in the overall sound. I can't put any of this to a number, though.
Jacew
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Re: Check out this "tonewood" statement . . .
One thing that annoys me in these threads is the word "tonewood"... There is no such things as tonewoods, wood is wood. Different woods make different impact on sound, but there absolutely is no species with special tonal properties to make guitar especially "toneful".
Aside fingerboard woods, where the feel and looks of the wood itself actually makes a difference, using some expensive import woods on a guitar is stupid waste of money.
One thing that annoys me in these threads is the word "tonewood"... There is no such things as tonewoods, wood is wood. Different woods make different impact on sound, but there absolutely is no species with special tonal properties to make guitar especially "toneful".
Aside fingerboard woods, where the feel and looks of the wood itself actually makes a difference, using some expensive import woods on a guitar is stupid waste of money.
