Controversial Amplifier Hot Takes

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no one actually knows what power tube distortion sounds like
 
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Being mainly into a tight modern metal sound, I don't think that I like power tube distortion that much.
I can probably get it with my 5 watt Picovalve turned all the way up, and it's ok, but much better for a classic rock sound.

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Power tube distortion>preamp tube distortion

Some silverfaces sound really, really good.

The classic Dual Rect sound makes every guitar player, guitar, and song sound the same.
 
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i agree some silverface amps sound great

youve never heard power tube distortion without preamp distortion and probably pi distortion, maybe even speaker breakup
 
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Cleans hide sloppy playing and heavy gain exaggerates it.

People who say it's the other way around must have never used really high gain.
 
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Cleans hide sloppy playing and heavy gain exaggerates it.

People who say it's the other way around must have never used really high gain.
Or you've never used either really, really loudly.
If you don't play super loud cleans clearly, they sound like crap. If you play distorted super loud, you probably won't hear much unless you are at least 30' in front of the cabinets.

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Cleans hide sloppy playing and heavy gain exaggerates it.

People who say it's the other way around must have never used really high gain.
Depends whether you think picking dynamics are harder to control than muting. The compression you get with high gain is both a positive and a negative in terms of making things easier to play.

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Any high gain amp that's 100 watts is already doing this when you think about it. It's just using preamp tube distortion, virtually no power tube contribution. You can connect a tube pedal in the loop to effectively replace the preamp of a high wattage clean amp to get similar high gain tones.
Sure, but I thought you meant distortion pedals based on transistor clipping. I know people who run fairly cheap distortion pedals into the clean channel on a Marshall and think it sounds better than the distortion channel (it really really doesn't).

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The classic Dual Rect sound makes every guitar player, guitar, and song sound the same.

Like this?


Oh wait, maybe that's a metalzone-boosted triple,,,,,, lol
 
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Cleans hide sloppy playing and heavy gain exaggerates it.

People who say it's the other way around must have never used really high gain.



I play clean most of the time . . . and half agree with this. With high gain, the tiniest finger noise or slightly open string is magnified and more difficult to control, and gain + volume takes a little getting used to to control feedback. Control of attack and pick dynamics with cleans is much less forgiving though. You can play sloppily either with clean or high gain and sound OK . . . but your sloppiness has to be a different kind of sloppiness for each.
 
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High distortion (and therefore, compression) levels make extraneous noises louder. But you don't have to be nearly as precise as hitting a note dead-on, as it gets 'smoothed over'. You also don't have to worry about consistency in tone, as the level of distortion & compression takes care of that.
 
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A controversial amp hot take? Here's some:

- Very few guitarists on internet forums have ever modded their tube amp; let alone built one.
- Most don't know how to bias, either
- Many haven't ever played through a cranked non-master volume tube amp
- Playing a tube amp with the Master Volume at a low setting is effectively neutering your amp
- Many haven't experienced the audible bliss and longevity that is found in NOS tubes
- If you are a peace-nik, you'll be shocked/triggered to know that some tubes were designed for military purposes
 
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any amp's distorted tone will sound better with less gain and more volume
 
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Running low wattage tube amps gets you worse not better low volume tones than many 50 to 100 watt tube amps do.
 
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A controversial amp hot take? Here's some:

- Very few guitarists on internet forums have ever modded their tube amp; let alone built one.
- Most don't know how to bias, either
- Many haven't ever played through a cranked non-master volume tube amp
- Playing a tube amp with the Master Volume at a low setting is effectively neutering your amp
- Many haven't experienced the audible bliss and longevity that is found in NOS tubes
- If you are a peace-nik, you'll be shocked/triggered to know that some tubes were designed for military purposes

He was asking for controversial takes, not factual observations. :)
 
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Yep . . .will probably happen some day, but we're safe at the moment.
 
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Modeling is the future of guitar amplification.

Like it or not, there will be a time where people who know how to fix tube amps (much less design them) are no more. I never met a kid who is remotely interested in that right now.
 
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