mantis
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Hello all,
I'm constantly in a state of flux with Multi effects and pedals. When you compare cost to each of them the pedal board and pedals far exceed the cost of any multi effects I've ever seen.
What makes no sense to me is how a company like Boss can make a Multi effects unit like the GT-100 and do all it can do which is a ton but then charge you what they charge you for pedals and now a control unit. it's not even close.
So if you want to build a pedal board that you buy not DIY , you have to spend at least $100 bucks or more just for the board. Then you need power which depending on how many pedals you plan to use you will spend at least another $100 or more. Then you need the small patch cables to link them all together which isn't that much but lets say you will need around $50 bucks just for them depending greatly on how many you need.
So at the very minimum before you even buy your first pedal , your into it for $250. So a tuner is probably a very important pedal that everyone needs agreed? So there's another $100 bucks or so give or take. So now your into this no actual pedals yet for $350 and you have no effects yet.
So if your into just a few things most of us will have a OD pedal of some sort , there's an average of $100 most will spend way more but I'm trying to keep this idea simple as possible. Then most of us will have a Delay so there's another $100. Now Reverb is another very common one if your amp doesn't have it in it another $100. So now your at $650 and you barely have anything going on. If you want to control these pedals and switch your amp, Boss wants $399 for the ES-5 which is probably to small for most pedal people. Now your at $1049. You could easily be at $1500 to $3000 for your pedal board or more easy because we all don't pay $100 bucks for a Pedal all the time. Sometimes less but most of the time more , way more like $299 in some cases or so.
So with all that being said why can't Boss or anyone else build a true Multi effects unit like the Gt-100 and make it analog just like having all pedals with control Midi and WAH volume etc and have it sound exactly as good or really better then a custom built by you pedal Board?
We as artists or Musicians however you want to label us I feel would be willing to spend lets say for arguments sake $1999 for a un believable sounding organic flexible Multi effects board with NO modeling? Why wouldn't most of us be willing to pay for that? You easily will spend that or way more on your pedal board easy.
IMHO most effects sound the same to a point. Not saying that is hard facts but listen a Delay is a delay when built well by most companies. So is Reverb , Chours Flangers and all other Modulation type effects. They don't differ enough to have to have such an array of different brands that not just one brand can satisfy your effects needs right? So lets say TC Electronics or Boss or MXR or Electro Harmonics figure out a way to build a Killer Pedal Board that sounds as good or I feel it could easily sound better then using all those pedals would you buy one?
I look at the Multi Effects units offered today and none of them are better then a custom built by you pedal board. They always lack this or that and you can express yourself and have nothing not the way you want. But what if someone could built it the way you want or they build one so flexible it covers just about everyones needs? Currently these offerings try to do but you have to give up some sound quality and have digital things go on making your amp not sound like itself when you use pedals or your guitar loses some of it's personality but you give that up for the ultimate in flexibility.
Well I'm sick and tired of that and think someone should come forward and built the ultimate multi effects floor processor with NO compromise in tone , signal or anything. You can't tell me these companies can't do it. If someone came forward and built one I bet many people would buy it and it would change forever how we control our rigs, how we create music as Artists.
So what do you guys think ?
I'm constantly in a state of flux with Multi effects and pedals. When you compare cost to each of them the pedal board and pedals far exceed the cost of any multi effects I've ever seen.
What makes no sense to me is how a company like Boss can make a Multi effects unit like the GT-100 and do all it can do which is a ton but then charge you what they charge you for pedals and now a control unit. it's not even close.
So if you want to build a pedal board that you buy not DIY , you have to spend at least $100 bucks or more just for the board. Then you need power which depending on how many pedals you plan to use you will spend at least another $100 or more. Then you need the small patch cables to link them all together which isn't that much but lets say you will need around $50 bucks just for them depending greatly on how many you need.
So at the very minimum before you even buy your first pedal , your into it for $250. So a tuner is probably a very important pedal that everyone needs agreed? So there's another $100 bucks or so give or take. So now your into this no actual pedals yet for $350 and you have no effects yet.
So if your into just a few things most of us will have a OD pedal of some sort , there's an average of $100 most will spend way more but I'm trying to keep this idea simple as possible. Then most of us will have a Delay so there's another $100. Now Reverb is another very common one if your amp doesn't have it in it another $100. So now your at $650 and you barely have anything going on. If you want to control these pedals and switch your amp, Boss wants $399 for the ES-5 which is probably to small for most pedal people. Now your at $1049. You could easily be at $1500 to $3000 for your pedal board or more easy because we all don't pay $100 bucks for a Pedal all the time. Sometimes less but most of the time more , way more like $299 in some cases or so.
So with all that being said why can't Boss or anyone else build a true Multi effects unit like the Gt-100 and make it analog just like having all pedals with control Midi and WAH volume etc and have it sound exactly as good or really better then a custom built by you pedal Board?
We as artists or Musicians however you want to label us I feel would be willing to spend lets say for arguments sake $1999 for a un believable sounding organic flexible Multi effects board with NO modeling? Why wouldn't most of us be willing to pay for that? You easily will spend that or way more on your pedal board easy.
IMHO most effects sound the same to a point. Not saying that is hard facts but listen a Delay is a delay when built well by most companies. So is Reverb , Chours Flangers and all other Modulation type effects. They don't differ enough to have to have such an array of different brands that not just one brand can satisfy your effects needs right? So lets say TC Electronics or Boss or MXR or Electro Harmonics figure out a way to build a Killer Pedal Board that sounds as good or I feel it could easily sound better then using all those pedals would you buy one?
I look at the Multi Effects units offered today and none of them are better then a custom built by you pedal board. They always lack this or that and you can express yourself and have nothing not the way you want. But what if someone could built it the way you want or they build one so flexible it covers just about everyones needs? Currently these offerings try to do but you have to give up some sound quality and have digital things go on making your amp not sound like itself when you use pedals or your guitar loses some of it's personality but you give that up for the ultimate in flexibility.
Well I'm sick and tired of that and think someone should come forward and built the ultimate multi effects floor processor with NO compromise in tone , signal or anything. You can't tell me these companies can't do it. If someone came forward and built one I bet many people would buy it and it would change forever how we control our rigs, how we create music as Artists.
So what do you guys think ?
