Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

[Rockstar216]

I know these thing are like a holy grail to some but they are so damn expensive and Ive never seen one in person and there are very few clips of them. Only artist ive ever seen using one live was Myles Kennedy of Alterbridge awhile back on a rig rundown video on youtube. Is this amp really the alpha and omega of modern amplifiers?

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

What I would do is type a search for "high gain", and spend some time studying threads.
I made this thread awhile back, and it has some Deizel info. in it;

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...-Gain-Amp-for-you-and-Why&highlight=high+gain

 

[dd12939]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

IIRC the Diezel VH4 is/was a staple of Adam Jones' (Tool) rig.

 

[UberMetalDood]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

Hell yeah! I love Deizels. The Einstein 50 was one of the most brilliant amps ever made. It's a shame they don't make it any more. I played a Herbert and a Schmidt as well. They're really, really good amps. If I could pick any one of the Diezels right now regardless of price, I'd still pick the Schmidt. What a freaking beautiful amplifier.

 

[playas]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

I played one (a VH4 I think) in a music shop about a year ago and was really impressed with the medium level gain / classic rock tones which are more to my liking than the serious damage they are designed for.

I didn´t play around with the settings too much as I was trying to check out a guitar rather than the amp at the time, but definitely liked what I heard.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

Played a VH4 for years. It probably IS the Alpha and Omega of modern amps. Very versatile, lots of great tones in that box. Could not stand the other models, tho.

 

[alteredbeast]

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never played one myself, would like to tho just to see what all the hub bub is about. i remember lookin it up on youtube a few years ago, and only finding like 1 non big name person who had one, he was a hetfield impersonator, who couldn't play the riffs precisely. weird.

 

[guitarded]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

I know these thing are like a holy grail to some but they are so damn expensive and Ive never seen one in person and there are very few clips of them. Only artist ive ever seen using one live was Myles Kennedy of Alterbridge awhile back on a rig rundown video on youtube. Is this amp really the alpha and omega of modern amplifiers?

The other guitar player in one my bands using an Einstein. It is a ground sounding amp. Eats tubes for lunch and somewhat inconsistent on the negative side.

 

[UberMetalDood]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

The other guitar player in one my bands using an Einstein. It is a ground sounding amp. Eats tubes for lunch and somewhat inconsistent on the negative side.

Yeah but I'll bet good money that there's something wrong with his amp to begin with. My friend is a gigging musician and has a very early 2000's Einstein which still has the stock tubes. They seem incredibly well-built to me. Most people over at Rig-Talk have nothing but good things to say about their reliability.

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

Only reason I ask is because im trying to save up for a new amp but want it to be my main rig for a long time. This would be my first head and cab ever. Right now on my list is Either a Bogner Shiva or XTC or Uberschall or a Diezel of some sort or maybe even a friedman amp but im not to famillar with either of these amps or how they would feel. I doubt I would go for a Uberschall because it is a one trick pony and for what im doing I would be playing a lot more then just metal to almost no type of metal at all. Mostly a lot of blues, R&B, Jazz, and hard rock and worship and gospel.

 

[NecroPolo]

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We had a Herbert in the studio. If everything was about downtune riffing, that would be a perfect amp but for definition it won't win contests.

A couple of years ago I had a rackmount Diezel/Hackman VH2S prototype that virtually had VH4 channel1 and channel3. It was like a pregnant mammooth for rhythm but something was in the attack/edge that made solos somewhat uncomfortable for me, I could cure that with OD pedals only. The amp has been under calibration for a long while at an old Diezel employee engineer. To be honest, I don't really miss it so when it will be ready one day, most probably I'll sell it.

As an amp guru said, the soft-edge phenomenon was cured in the VH4S series. If I do the math and imagine the lethal punch of the prototype and add some bite, plus 4 channels and all the clever routing - you get a hell of an amp for sure.

 

[UberMetalDood]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

Only reason I ask is because im trying to save up for a new amp but want it to be my main rig for a long time. This would be my first head and cab ever. Right now on my list is Either a Bogner Shiva or XTC or Uberschall or a Diezel of some sort or maybe even a friedman amp but im not to famillar with either of these amps or how they would feel. I doubt I would go for a Uberschall because it is a one trick pony and for what im doing I would be playing a lot more then just metal to almost no type of metal at all. Mostly a lot of blues, R&B, Jazz, and hard rock and worship and gospel.

Man there are a lot of good quality amps out there right now. Some people put a lot of stock in handwired vs PCB construction. I personally found my zen in Bogners, namely the Goldfinger 90 and Ecstasy amps I have now. There are amps out there that I would have easily been just as happy with. If I were going to pay the money for a Friedman, I would rather spend that kind of money on a Cameron CCV, Landry LS50, Carol Ann Triptik or Diezel Schmidt. If I did it over again and went another route instead of Bogner, those would be my choices. The Schmidt man is just a freaking outstanding amp. I like it better than any other model they have and it will appeal to someone who doesn't want to be boxed into the modern/hi-fi thing. Plus it comes with reverb which is a nice feature you don't get in other Diezels or any of the other brands I mentioned. The XTC doesn't have reverb either.

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

Man there are a lot of good quality amps out there right now. Some people put a lot of stock in handwired vs PCB construction. I personally found my zen in Bogners, namely the Goldfinger 90 and Ecstasy amps I have now. There are amps out there that I would have easily been just as happy with. If I were going to pay the money for a Friedman, I would rather spend that kind of money on a Cameron CCV, Landry LS50, Carol Ann Triptik or Diezel Schmidt. If I did it over again and went another route instead of Bogner, those would be my choices. The Schmidt man is just a freaking outstanding amp. I like it better than any other model they have and it will appeal to someone who doesn't want to be boxed into the modern/hi-fi thing. Plus it comes with reverb which is a nice feature you don't get in other Diezels or any of the other brands I mentioned. The XTC doesn't have reverb either.

I just looked up some of the amps you mentioned this Landry sounds like a dream exactly how a rock should sound an the distortion is beautiful and cleans up very well with the volume knob.

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

Im really looking at The Shiva and the Landry line of amps I would of had the Cameron CCV in the mix but it doesn't come with reverb. I know I will like the Shiva with cleans and has more gain on tap then I would ever need for what im doing but I like the features of the Landry but havent heard a clip of it on the clean channel. Does Landry and the Shiva both go for around 2500?

 

[guitarded]

Re: Diezel amp has anyone ever played or tried one?

Yeah but I'll bet good money that there's something wrong with his amp to begin with. My friend is a gigging musician and has a very early 2000's Einstein which still has the stock tubes. They seem incredibly well-built to me. Most people over at Rig-Talk have nothing but good things to say about their reliability.

Might be the way he biases the tubes or the meter he is using.