astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
Might even be able to restore it?
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Does this damage look substantial to you?
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Funkfingers
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Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
Never mind the straight line mark.
Have you checked out that serial number, bro?
Never mind the straight line mark.
Have you checked out that serial number, bro?
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Does this damage look substantial to you?
You doubt that's it's an authentic example?
Edit: it's 2012 date is consistent with the production of this model.
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You doubt that's it's an authentic example?
Edit: it's 2012 date is consistent with the production of this model.
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octavedoctor
New member
Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
Gibson ship their guitars with the lacquer very fresh. Nitro takes literally years to harden fully and this is why repair lines always show up after a few weeks. There is a kind of half-life effect to the drying/curing process; it skims over quite quickly and is touch dry in minutes, but like the skin on a rice pudding, underneath it is still soft and the skin slows down the drying. This is why expert refinishers apply large numbers of thin coats and leave ample drying time between them, but in the real world of guitar production this isn't practical, so the nitro finish on Gibsons is still 'soft" for a long period after manufacture and sale. Although it might not seem soft, and it can still chip, apply even light pressure for a sustained period and it will leave a mark as the lacquer can still flow, albeit very slowly.
What has happened here is that the headstock has been leant against a sharp corner - perhaps a rack mount or something like that - for an extended period and a line has been left. There appears to be a chip at the far right end and this could be the result of lacquer fusion, where the lacquer actually sticks to the surface and then chips off when the guitar is pulled away. I'm not sure if it is a chip or a photo artefact as the image isn't very hi-res and there is a lot of colour noise.
I'm pretty certain of this; about 95% certain because I see quite a lot of it in my business. Lacquer fusion in particular is a big problem with vintage reissue Fenders as the neck can be effectively glued into the pocket by the lacquer, however 95% certain or not, I'm not sure I'd put any money down until I actually eyeballed it myself!
FYI, the 5% uncertainty stems from the fact that if it's a 'bird then the angle is wrong. For it have leaned against something at that angle it it would have had to have been balancing on the tip of the lower bout, unless it's an NR, but if it was then the headstock would be different.
Gibson ship their guitars with the lacquer very fresh. Nitro takes literally years to harden fully and this is why repair lines always show up after a few weeks. There is a kind of half-life effect to the drying/curing process; it skims over quite quickly and is touch dry in minutes, but like the skin on a rice pudding, underneath it is still soft and the skin slows down the drying. This is why expert refinishers apply large numbers of thin coats and leave ample drying time between them, but in the real world of guitar production this isn't practical, so the nitro finish on Gibsons is still 'soft" for a long period after manufacture and sale. Although it might not seem soft, and it can still chip, apply even light pressure for a sustained period and it will leave a mark as the lacquer can still flow, albeit very slowly.
What has happened here is that the headstock has been leant against a sharp corner - perhaps a rack mount or something like that - for an extended period and a line has been left. There appears to be a chip at the far right end and this could be the result of lacquer fusion, where the lacquer actually sticks to the surface and then chips off when the guitar is pulled away. I'm not sure if it is a chip or a photo artefact as the image isn't very hi-res and there is a lot of colour noise.
I'm pretty certain of this; about 95% certain because I see quite a lot of it in my business. Lacquer fusion in particular is a big problem with vintage reissue Fenders as the neck can be effectively glued into the pocket by the lacquer, however 95% certain or not, I'm not sure I'd put any money down until I actually eyeballed it myself!
FYI, the 5% uncertainty stems from the fact that if it's a 'bird then the angle is wrong. For it have leaned against something at that angle it it would have had to have been balancing on the tip of the lower bout, unless it's an NR, but if it was then the headstock would be different.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
It is the high E 'head that is inaccurately installed. Offering up a typical guitar tech's six inch steel rule will confirm this.
To be honest, all six appear out of alignment to some degree or another.
It is the high E 'head that is inaccurately installed. Offering up a typical guitar tech's six inch steel rule will confirm this.
To be honest, all six appear out of alignment to some degree or another.
jon the art guy
Nerdy Nerd
Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
Yea, some Dingus did what I do with my guitars and lean them up against a piece of furniture, but unlike me, said Dingus didn't play the guitar for a stretch which may have included a hot spell. I bet it'll buff out pretty well.
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Yea, some Dingus did what I do with my guitars and lean them up against a piece of furniture, but unlike me, said Dingus didn't play the guitar for a stretch which may have included a hot spell. I bet it'll buff out pretty well.
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astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
Case closed. No damage. Only finish dented.
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Case closed. No damage. Only finish dented.
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alteredbeast
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Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
sh!t bin snapp'd?
sh!t bin snapp'd?
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Does this damage look substantial to you?
Nah man. Just a little line in the paint. That's all. It's got more wear now than it did then.
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Nah man. Just a little line in the paint. That's all. It's got more wear now than it did then.
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alteredbeast
New member
Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
well then, carry on, as you were. rock.
well then, carry on, as you were. rock.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
Right on!
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Right on!
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alteredbeast
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Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
you receive mad labia i see.
you receive mad labia i see.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Does this damage look substantial to you?
What?
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What?
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