Dokken Bucker

Luke Duke

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So a few guys have asked about a full out review on the Dokken Bucker so as the only guy (that I know of) on the forum that has one I'll try to elaborate on my other statements.

The pickup is mentioned here at 4:40 by George. Mine is wound to 15K on the nose and is the double black aged model.

I've tried this guitar in my Cleveland 57 Strat (alder body) with vintage style hardware and electronics, and last week I slapped it in my R8 with Tone Pros hardware, real black beauties and a Seth in the neck.

I put it in the Strat and started playing "Breaking the Chains" and was heard it. That said, in a strat without, I think, a 10 band EQ you have a lack of low mids that really got on my nerves and made the pickup/guitar sound artificially thin. I went from my Tweed Pro to my Super, to my Modded 2204 and the low mids bothered me the whole time. It was really strange. That said the guitar was very "present" and had a tone that would never get lost in the mix. My main issue was that the low mid girth I'm used to hear in my A2 mag pickups was just not there or even my 70s X2N just wasn't there.

So same thing, I slapped it in (with a SD cover, but that's more texture than darker IMO) and started playing breaking the chains. It sounded Lynch-esque, but there was a BIG difference. The low mids hole was filled and the pickup seemed a little more balanced overall. I wasn't firmly in the early 80s Dokken world, but I wasn't far out either. It made me think of more of a Lynch Mob Wicked Sensation type of tone. I REALLY like it in the LP. I don't know about long term in the LP, but it is definitely cool.

General observations are that it's not overly hot like I expected the Super V to be or like I some other high output pickups. According to the above video George does mention that the magnet is degaussed which I think is interesting. Another interesting thing is that the pickup has MINIMAL compression compared to other hot pickups. I think this is the characteristic I really latch onto. That's my big gripe with high output pickups, they feel/sound smaller due to the sheer amount of compression. I THINK that is what George was going for with the Screamin Demon as well. More power and no compression carries the day here. The phrase I feel describes it accurately is "this pickup has a lot of bandwidth".

So....if you're a Lynch-head....GET ONE!

Save your pennies and dimes, pass the Screamin Demon up and wait till you can talk to MJ. I didn't know this pickup existed before the Dallas guitar show, but now I do and I'm glad I've had a chance to experience it.

Luke
 
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My 2005 User Group Day pickup was a 15.3K Custom 5. The reasoning was that I wanted a Custom 5 overwound a bit to add some mids. I found it too pushed sounding in a LP or PRS, so I need to try it in a strat.

Is this Dokken pickup similar in any way to the Custom wind?

I tend to favor stuff like the Brobucker, C/59 hybrid, C5, and Seths, PG's, Burstbuckers, or 57 Classics for A2 pickups.
 
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My 2005 User Group Day pickup was a 15.3K Custom 5. The reasoning was that I wanted a Custom 5 overwound a bit to add some mids. I found it too pushed sounding in a LP or PRS, so I need to try it in a strat.

Is this Dokken pickup similar in any way to the Custom wind?

I tend to favor stuff like the Brobucker, C/59 hybrid, C5, and Seths, PG's, Burstbuckers, or 57 Classics for A2 pickups.

Not in the least, it's going to sound waaaay different than your C5+. Not very PAF-y to my ears.

Mine was supposed to have been done by now. Maybe it'll happen and ship his week. F-spaced, zebra, 4-con. Still thinking about which guitar to test it in, but it'll probably be alder or poplar.


Depending on who I've talked with at Duncan its been described as something in the general range of a JB and DD. like a DD-lite or a JB with a large ceramic. Not that you'll get it with putting a larger ceramic in a JB, but those terms were used to help give an idea of the ballpark.

Like I said MJ described it to me as an "unwound" Duncan Distortion. A DD-Lite sounds accurate. Much less compression.
 
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The Iommi model with blade magnets most people don't know about called the El Diablo. I wonder how it sounds and feels with that A2 mag and hot wind.
 
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The Iommi model with blade magnets most people don't know about called the El Diablo. I wonder how it sounds and feels with that A2 mag and hot wind.

I actually heard the el diablo model differs from the Iommi model a bit. Didn't Scott Ian try the Iommi pickup an decide he wanted to tweak it to make it the el diablo? I bet it sound 7 different kinds of nasty.
 
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Wow!!! Been here for years and Just keep getting suprised!! Very cool!! Now I want t Dokken bucker and a RTM!! wonder how those two compare??
 
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I think the Dokken bucket would work well in most woods, where the RTM might be a little more finicky.


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Probably right. However, the guitar in question would be a Charvel and the RTM is pretty much designed for one of those. haha I wonder how the Dok bukker would be in a lester?
 
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Probably right. However, the guitar in question would be a Charvel and the RTM is pretty much designed for one of those. haha I wonder how the Dok bukker would be in a lester?

Man, I see where MY posts rate with you! Refer to post number 1.
 
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I actually heard the el diablo model differs from the Iommi model a bit. Didn't Scott Ian try the Iommi pickup an decide he wanted to tweak it to make it the el diablo? I bet it sound 7 different kinds of nasty.

You heard wrong. The Iommi and the bladed El Diablo are the same pickup. Scott Ian tweaked a version of the Screamin Demon. It looked similar to the Demon but was quite a bit hotter from my understanding. It was named the Diablo instituting even more confusion.
 
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Dokken Bucker?

I'm just gonna slap a Distortion in there and get my fx right...
Then spend the rest of my life working on chops!
 
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You heard wrong. The Iommi and the bladed El Diablo are the same pickup. Scott Ian tweaked a version of the Screamin Demon. It looked similar to the Demon but was quite a bit hotter from my understanding. It was named the Diablo instituting even more confusion.

I know, I read the thread explaining it that was posted shortly after I made that post too. REALLY confusing stuff, wonder why the name stuck and they didn't just call it something else.
 
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I repeat - a Distortion and quality time with a high end delay.
 
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