Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
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Multi Angle Vise
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
"reading" Nitro's posts shortly after "typing" Nitro's posts.
People are more taking issue with your unreasonable certainty, rather than your actual content. You can't know any of this stuff for sure, but you post as though you do, and then you call any varying opinion "bs".
It looks a little like an obsessional disorder. 33 years man. How many more of your remaining years will be spent on this? Everyone needs a hobby? I dunno.
"reading" Nitro's posts shortly after "typing" Nitro's posts.
People are more taking issue with your unreasonable certainty, rather than your actual content. You can't know any of this stuff for sure, but you post as though you do, and then you call any varying opinion "bs".
It looks a little like an obsessional disorder. 33 years man. How many more of your remaining years will be spent on this? Everyone needs a hobby? I dunno.
Multi Angle Vise
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
OK missed the phase 90 stuff while typing. This is a wind up right? You can hear A2 vs A5 vs ceramic but you can't hear the phase 90? No, just no. Obvious troll is obvious or oblivious troll is oblivious?
OK missed the phase 90 stuff while typing. This is a wind up right? You can hear A2 vs A5 vs ceramic but you can't hear the phase 90? No, just no. Obvious troll is obvious or oblivious troll is oblivious?
Christopher Caruana
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
I love seeing ppl get so worked up
pcorn:
let the battle resume
I love seeing ppl get so worked up
pcorn:let the battle resume
oilpit
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
Pitbull/Nitro, we all know you're the same person. The abhorrent grammar is a pretty dead giveaway...
And just state the point once more...there is DEFINITELY a phase 90 on the chorus and solo of Running With The Devil...
Pitbull/Nitro, we all know you're the same person. The abhorrent grammar is a pretty dead giveaway...
And just state the point once more...there is DEFINITELY a phase 90 on the chorus and solo of Running With The Devil...
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zakk_speed
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
Before this descends into silliness - Pitbull seriously if this is so core to your journey as a guitarist why dont you phone the custom shop and ask them to wind you the pickup from the VH1 period? Honestly, noone here or even Ed himself can tell you what it was exactly, but the guy with his name on this company and website will have a pretty darn good idea.
I mean its likely gonna be $160 and job done - you can explain your playing style, pick attack etc and they can tune the pickup to get you there.
The problem will be when you plug in you will still sound like you. Ed has said this numerous times, as have other iconic guitarists like beck, clapton and angus : when other guitarists plug into their rig they cant understand where the signature tone went. The EVH playing style is one of the hardest things to nail becuase of his skill, unique timing and musicality, and even then in all the live recordings I've ever heard he has never really sounded like VH1 either.
However if your goal is to get your post count up in this forum...pray continue with the ghost chasing, but dont be surprised when folks get hacked off with it.
Before this descends into silliness - Pitbull seriously if this is so core to your journey as a guitarist why dont you phone the custom shop and ask them to wind you the pickup from the VH1 period? Honestly, noone here or even Ed himself can tell you what it was exactly, but the guy with his name on this company and website will have a pretty darn good idea.
I mean its likely gonna be $160 and job done - you can explain your playing style, pick attack etc and they can tune the pickup to get you there.
The problem will be when you plug in you will still sound like you. Ed has said this numerous times, as have other iconic guitarists like beck, clapton and angus : when other guitarists plug into their rig they cant understand where the signature tone went. The EVH playing style is one of the hardest things to nail becuase of his skill, unique timing and musicality, and even then in all the live recordings I've ever heard he has never really sounded like VH1 either.
However if your goal is to get your post count up in this forum...pray continue with the ghost chasing, but dont be surprised when folks get hacked off with it.
Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
Ayrton and oilpit you guys need to go watch more scooby doo you have no clue.Pete thorn,EVH tone nailed cold,give me what you two are on I need to trip alittle like you two,is it fun,also Im not nitro.Phase 90 on running with the devil????? Ive heard it all now.It looks like you have no clue what so ever about the different van halen tones especially the van halen 1 sound,go back and listen to the running with the devil track that Ed Hunter posted.Pete thorn doesnt come close to that sound.Im dealing with air heads here,many have told me not to post any van halen threads here because of people like the two and others who post here,I can see why.Phase 90 all that gain....What a joke.Ayrton you believe john suhr and friedman,woooooooooowwwwwwwww.
Ayrton and oilpit you guys need to go watch more scooby doo you have no clue.Pete thorn,EVH tone nailed cold,give me what you two are on I need to trip alittle like you two,is it fun,also Im not nitro.Phase 90 on running with the devil????? Ive heard it all now.It looks like you have no clue what so ever about the different van halen tones especially the van halen 1 sound,go back and listen to the running with the devil track that Ed Hunter posted.Pete thorn doesnt come close to that sound.Im dealing with air heads here,many have told me not to post any van halen threads here because of people like the two and others who post here,I can see why.Phase 90 all that gain....What a joke.Ayrton you believe john suhr and friedman,woooooooooowwwwwwwww.
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Christopher Caruana
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
Pittbull,
There are a COUNTLESS number of videos on youtube of people nailing the VH1 tone.....They all do it with different guitars and pickups, but you know what 95% of them have in common? they are playing through a Marshall plexi or plexi-clone amp.
The secret is in the plexi (and the hands)...not a magical pickup. Any PAF type or "hot" PAF typ of pickup into a plexi will get you 90% of the way there. The rest is in your hands and technique
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Pittbull,
There are a COUNTLESS number of videos on youtube of people nailing the VH1 tone.....They all do it with different guitars and pickups, but you know what 95% of them have in common? they are playing through a Marshall plexi or plexi-clone amp.
The secret is in the plexi (and the hands)...not a magical pickup. Any PAF type or "hot" PAF typ of pickup into a plexi will get you 90% of the way there. The rest is in your hands and technique
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
Can you point out to me chris the clips that you have heard on youtube that achieve the van halen 1 sound(first album tone),I have listen to many clips on youtube and none come close to that.Listen to the iso clip of running with the devil that Ed Hunter posted,they dont come close to that.Then you have guys posting that talk about john suhr and dave friedman saying that the amp was stock,them two didint see Eds plexi until the 90s when it was back to stock values.Jose areendondo was Eddie's main amp guy in the 70s and 80s Jose did install a master volume to Eds main plexi plus other things.A MXR Phase 90 will not give you the gain-edge as some are discribing,no way...Ive also notice the insult throwers,they have no knowledge or clue about this subject so they throw out the insults because they just dont know,thats to bad.The insult throwers have no interest in this subject they need to go watch more cartoons.
Can you point out to me chris the clips that you have heard on youtube that achieve the van halen 1 sound(first album tone),I have listen to many clips on youtube and none come close to that.Listen to the iso clip of running with the devil that Ed Hunter posted,they dont come close to that.Then you have guys posting that talk about john suhr and dave friedman saying that the amp was stock,them two didint see Eds plexi until the 90s when it was back to stock values.Jose areendondo was Eddie's main amp guy in the 70s and 80s Jose did install a master volume to Eds main plexi plus other things.A MXR Phase 90 will not give you the gain-edge as some are discribing,no way...Ive also notice the insult throwers,they have no knowledge or clue about this subject so they throw out the insults because they just dont know,thats to bad.The insult throwers have no interest in this subject they need to go watch more cartoons.
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Christopher Caruana
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Masta' C
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
PITTBULL -
YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED!
YOU WILL NEVER SOUND EXACTLY LIKE EVH!
YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A MENACE WHO CAN'T ACT CONSIDERATELY TO OTHER'S INPUT, OPINIONS AND IDEAS ON THE TOPICS THAT YOU INSIST ON BRINGING UP IN PUBLIC FORUMS!!!
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Perhaps you need a quick dictionary definition to refresh your memory about what a "forum" is:
fo·rum/ˈfôrəm/Noun
1. A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
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You somehow feel that you are the only one who is right, despite never having achieved this "magical" tone yourself!
Give it up! You're killing the dream...killing it...for ALL of us!
QUIT POSTING CRAP AND GO PLAY YOUR GUITAR!
PITTBULL -
YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED!
YOU WILL NEVER SOUND EXACTLY LIKE EVH!
YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A MENACE WHO CAN'T ACT CONSIDERATELY TO OTHER'S INPUT, OPINIONS AND IDEAS ON THE TOPICS THAT YOU INSIST ON BRINGING UP IN PUBLIC FORUMS!!!
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Perhaps you need a quick dictionary definition to refresh your memory about what a "forum" is:
fo·rum/ˈfôrəm/Noun
1. A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
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You somehow feel that you are the only one who is right, despite never having achieved this "magical" tone yourself!
Give it up! You're killing the dream...killing it...for ALL of us!
QUIT POSTING CRAP AND GO PLAY YOUR GUITAR!
oilpit
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
Clearly different people wrote these posts, they share NO similarities!!!
nitro from the Dimarzio forum said:
Clearly different people wrote these posts, they share NO similarities!!!
Christopher Caruana
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBSy4lnL2k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZL4JQQ21Qs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kK0We-Y5Tc
Here is a few that I found. Yes they are not 100% on, but they are all about 90% of the way there. Like I said before....the other 10% is in your techinque and such
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBSy4lnL2k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZL4JQQ21Qs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kK0We-Y5Tc
Here is a few that I found. Yes they are not 100% on, but they are all about 90% of the way there. Like I said before....the other 10% is in your techinque and such
IanBallard
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Re: Duncan Custom SH-5 Special Van halen pickup
Alnico 8's are very strong magnets and have more gauss potential than ceramic. The lower-wind of Super 70's is negated by the pull and huge magnetic field of the magnet. We also don't know exactly how close to the strings he had it. I say a Super 70 could easily put our more voltage to the preamp than a PAF or "78", especially with Ed's strong strumming technique. Not a mystery to me. Go to the metroamp site and listen to the dude playing Unchained with a stock Les Paul through a 12xxx SLP clone. Near perfect... just guitar into amp. No cascading, no mods... just a period-correct Plexi, cranked.
Alnico 8's are very strong magnets and have more gauss potential than ceramic. The lower-wind of Super 70's is negated by the pull and huge magnetic field of the magnet. We also don't know exactly how close to the strings he had it. I say a Super 70 could easily put our more voltage to the preamp than a PAF or "78", especially with Ed's strong strumming technique. Not a mystery to me. Go to the metroamp site and listen to the dude playing Unchained with a stock Les Paul through a 12xxx SLP clone. Near perfect... just guitar into amp. No cascading, no mods... just a period-correct Plexi, cranked.
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