Duncan Pickup History: when was the APH-1 introduced?

[ToneFiddler]

at the same time as the SH-2 Jazz, since it's just a mag swap away?

also quite funny, that the "Standard Humbucker" SH-2 with a mag swap is named "Alnico 2 Pro Humbucker" APH-1, but The StagMag SH-3 (ALnico Polepieces) and the Dime SH-13 (rails, non Standard dimensions) which are not total standard are named SH-... also.

 

[beaubrummels]

No. The Alnico 2 Pro was introduced in 1987. The Jazz was introduced in 1977.

Standard Humbucker refers to the baseplate dimensions and string-to-string separation, not the pole piece type.

 

[ToneFiddler]

No. The Alnico 2 Pro was introduced in 1987. The Jazz was introduced in 1977.

Thanks! so that's around SH-11 times?

Standard Humbucker refers to the baseplate dimensions and string-to-string separation, not the pole piece type.

hence the SH-13 Dime not being Standard dimensions (the bobbins width is smaller), but the APHs are standard sized...

 

[beaubrummels]

The Dime is made like the old Bill Lawrence pickups; they have a surround, so if the bobbins are smaller, I would expect that is just so the surround fits and the whole package is a standard humbucker size.

 

[ToneFiddler]

No for the 3rd time, it‘s not. That‘s why it comes with a special mounting ring.
measuring see attachment. There is about 4 mm missing

 

[Spaghetti Bolo]

I always thought SH stood for 'Seymour Humbucker'.

 

[revolution]

at the same time as the SH-2 Jazz, since it's just a mag swap away?

I cant see this being possible. They're two completely different sounding pickups. I've swapped mags and got different tones, but nothing that drastic.

 

[beaubrummels]

I cant see this being possible. They're two completely different sounding pickups. I've swapped mags and got different tones, but nothing that drastic.

It's public knowledge that the Jazz and the Alnico 2 Pro are the same coil wind. The Jazz uses an A5 magnet, the Alnico 2 Pro uses an A2 magnet. Different magnets will make the same coil have different sounding characteristics as a result. Same reason the Custom, the Custom Custom and the Custom 5 exist.

 

[revolution]

Ahhhh indeed. Thank you for this.

 

[Mincer]

The Jazz and the APH-1 sound so vastly different from each other- it is amazing what a magnet can do on some winds.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

The Jazz and the APH-1 sound so vastly different from each other- it is amazing what a magnet can do on some winds.

I agree. But I also don't.

I agree. All of a sudden a cold and surgical pickup like the Jazz becomes something warm and chewy, which might be almost polar oppoosites on a first glance. However, even if you swap the magnet, and they do take on different characteristics, I still feel and detect the ultra cleanliness and clarity from the Jazz in the APH-1.

The analog for me would be the Distortion and the JB, which I'm more familiar with. People here argue they're different winds. But even if I'm super familiar and love the JB and Distortion, I feel they are very much alike even with their stock magnets. I wouldn't say it's the same pickup, but I wouldn't be surprised if I knew nothing about them other than how they sound, and someone told me they're related design-wise. I feel it's very close to the same with the Jazz/APH-1 (for me).

On a larger picture, of course. And JMO.

 

[RayBarbeeMusic]

The Jazz and the APH-1 sound so vastly different from each other- it is amazing what a magnet can do on some winds.

Right?!?!!?!

 

[marcello252]

In my Les Paul the APH-1n was the best HB I mounted on, the SH-2n the worst, it's mind blowing what a magnet can do

(that was long before knowing it was the same pickup)