Early Duncan EVH pickup

Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

pittbull said:
No basis in fact(some not all),your joking right.....
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... no basis in fact there "bull"... :banghead: Ed NEVER used a DMZ Super Distortion on VH#1 nor a pedal (such as an MXR Dist+) for distortion on it, nor was Ed's amp a "JCM800"... LMAO. Yet "theories" that he *did* live freely @ the MetroDisinfo boards... no basis in fact/truly wild off-the-cuff "ideas" which have no substance or evidence to back them up whatsoever.
 
Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

evhguitars said:
Ok, The Hum physical design was copied but wound to JB specs..using different wire..and different plastics

The first Jeff Beck model pups were labeled "The JB model" with red lettering that is what they were called..later it became only JB..so the name label did change it was not always the same!
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You keep saying this inspite of all the history to the contrary. Please provide the bibliography to these claims. Your credibility is really suffering at this point
 
Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

evhguitars said:
Yes, so that raises the BIG question that has not yet been answered...

What was the first SD hum pup advertised and marketed that was not a rewind?

Was it the PUP that EVH complained about findng the ad in a Guitar Player magazine using his name, or the JB or were those 2 one in the same at that time in 78?
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You have yet to produce any evidence that these are the same pickup. Your basically asking people to prove YOUR claim.
 
Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

evhguitars said:
This is exactly the reason that brings up the theory that JB = The Van Halen Special in the first days of Marketing! And that Van Halen Special was a hot output PUP!
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Your ridiculous fonts are childish and your "theory" is your alone. Provide some backup please
 
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YHWH you believe alot of Eddie van halen's BS,especially his early interviews in the late 70s early 80s, that he never used a distortion pedal,when you listen to van halen 1 you dont hear a distortion pedal of some kind,you can planely hear it,no stock marshall plexi can achieve the edge and distortion that Ed achieved on van halen 1, as for Ed not using a jcm 800,what they were talking about was a plexi mod that resembles a jcm 800 type of gain,let me here what you think about Eds van halen 1 sound.....
 
Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

pittbull said:
YHWH you believe alot of Eddie van halen's BS,especially his early interviews in the late 70s early 80s, that he never used a distortion pedal,when you listen to van halen 1 you dont hear a distortion pedal of some kind,you can planely hear it,no stock marshall plexi can achieve the edge and distortion that Ed achieved on van halen 1, as for Ed not using a jcm 800,what they were talking about was a plexi mod that resembles a jcm 800 type of gain,let me here what you think about Eds van halen 1 sound.....
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... if Ed used a "distortion pedal" then it'd have to have been the quietest operating and most dynamic dirt pedal ever created. There is absolutely no hiss or "shhhhhhhh" to it whatsoever... and when Ed' rolls down volume knob on his guitar it cleans up faster and more efficiently than Val cleaning Ed's bank account after their divorce. That is what makes it clear that Ed did NOT use an overdrive/distortion/fuzz/fizz pedal or anything of the sort... there is no excessive noise and no loss of dynamics in Ed's VH#1 sound whatsoever...

... the extra edge and distortion you hear on VH#1 comes from the two Echoplexes Ed used. There is a solid state preamp built into those effects (two EP-3s in Ed's case) and the extra gain/sustain offered by them was enough to effectively goose up Ed's Marshall. Add the Phase 90 Ed used to treble "boost" during his solos and you have brown "chewyness" for days. You can hear tons of edge and chew in all the pre VH#1 bootlegs that are out there...

As well, no JCM800 I've ever heard has the sonic character of a cranked plexi - four hole, non-MV amps have a disctinct roar, and a "reed-like", throaty tone (think how a clarinet or a sax blown by a proficient player in "forte/fortissimo" sounds) and Master volume amps, like a JCM800, just don't have that throaty character to them...


... BTW...*this* IS THE TONE... minus the plate reverb and some early Eventide H949 "spread"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDCG6Fq5U3A&fmt=18

 
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Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

jjimi1647 said:
Actually, he's right. The EVH Frankenstein, made by SD and marketed by EVH Gear (FMIC), IS the "hotter" pick up vis a vis the SD '78 (AKA EVH '78).
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No he isn't. The fender pickup is made by SD but it is not the 78. Evan made it very clear they are not the same pickup
 
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YHWH,jimmy page used marshall plexi's(superleads) with echoplex's and he add no were near the gain Eddie had,as for the phase 90 Ed thats just a coloration pedal it doesnt addd gain or edge,it would be on for a solo and then turned off it wasnt on all the time,ive owned early marshall plexi's and ep3 echoplex and the gain-distortion that Ed achieved on van halen 1 couldnt wasnt there many people have tried that with not-so-good results,i believe that Ed used his blonde fender bandmaster for van halen 1 not a marshall,anyway you have your opinions and i have mine...........
 
Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

pittbull said:
YHWH,jimmy page used marshall plexi's(superleads) with echoplex's and he add no were near the gain Eddie had,as for the phase 90 Ed thats just a coloration pedal it doesnt addd gain or edge,it would be on for a solo and then turned off it wasnt on all the time,ive owned early marshall plexi's and ep3 echoplex and the gain-distortion that Ed achieved on van halen 1 couldnt wasnt there many people have tried that with not-so-good results,i believe that Ed used his blonde fender bandmaster for van halen 1 not a marshall,anyway you have your opinions and i have mine...........
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The MXR EQ he used certainly could boost the front end of a plexi and we haven't even discussed the effects of a variac on the tone of the amp
 
Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

jjimi1647 said:
Who said they were one and the same? I certainly didn't. Go back and read my post.
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You most certainly did

Actually, he's right. The EVH Frankenstein, made by SD and marketed by EVH Gear (FMIC), IS the "hotter" pick up vis a vis the SD '78 (AKA EVH '78).
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There is only one "78" and its a 9k bucker from the SD custom shop and is nothing like the pickup SD is now making for FMIC/EVH
 
Re: Early Duncan EVH pickup

AudioWonderland said:
You most certainly did
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I see the problem here. If you'd bothered to check the definition of the phrase "vis a vis" you would have discovered that it means: with reference to, regarding, in relation to etc.
Now, go back and re-read my post in that context and you will see that "evhguitars" is right and so am I.

AudioWonderland said:
There is only one "78" and its a 9k bucker from the SD custom shop and is nothing like the pickup SD is now making for FMIC/EVH
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Right. Why you draw any other inference to the contrary from my post is baffling.
 
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