Entry level quality

Entry Level axes are at least 70% of what I got,,,no complaints. There are a lot of real gems out there that don't break the bank... :bigthumb:

I'm contemplating my 3rd Kramer Baretta Special as I type this :D

I'm one shy of owning all five. These guitars are the best in its price range hands down. Nothing comes close. Almost pulled the trigger on the Ruby Red (Hot Pink) but got an amp instead. Still going to buy another at some point. I wish the Kramer cases were easier to come by. I've got like 4 on backorder and it's been that way for months....
 
Monoprice is sending one of these Goldtops to my blog to review. Maple top and mahogany body for $250 seems too good to be true. I plan on playing it in the office but it will also get a workout with the band. I will definitely post a link to the review when I am done.


My gold top is phenomenal. About to order the burst today. I'm kind of worried though. My gold top is such a great guitar, it's really set my expectations high for what I should expect from them. So, much so that I'm worried of this one isn't perfect, also, I won't want it lol.

When I say perfect I mean it. No high frets. No sharp ends. It was shocking. And nobody believes me when I tell em about it. They always accuse me of being an employee because I talk so highly of my guitar.

Best part is I didn't even pay $249. I got it for $219!

Take a look at the YouTube reviews. Everybody seems to like theirs. I love mine.

Edit: mine is the first gold top they had, with humbuckers. I'd love to pick up the P90 gold top, too. And I likely will if this burst isn't up to par. They took down all the specs that, used to be up that, said it has a full thickness body with mahog set neck, 17.5mm thick maple cap, alnico 5 pickups, rosewood fretboard, etc... So I'm not sure what the P90 gold top has. Mine with humbuckers is spec'ed out nicely. I wish they still listed it all like they used to.

It's actually to the point that it's funny when people accuse me of working for Monoprice because I speak, so highly of my guitar. Like Ryan @ 60 Cycle Hum always makes excuses for $250 guitars, saying you should expect all these issues on a $250 guitar and I always point out that there are companies that sell $250 guitars without all those issues he complains about. And then I get accused of being a shill. Smh. It's ridiculous. So, is making excuses for inexpensive guitar companies, though.
 
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Man, I played an Indonesian Epiphone Hummingbird Acoustic yesterday that was pretty incredible. and 1/8th the price of a USA

Have you tried an Eastman dreadnought? I had their cheapest solid top (AC120) a few years ago, I think they were $400 new. MONSTER guitar. I took it to bluegrass jams, and old school D28 guys were impressed. Traded it off awhile back, and bought an AC420, the all solid rosewood/spruce version, about a year ago. They were under a grand new, closer to $600 used, and better than any other acoustic I've ever experienced.

Cheap guitars are pretty amazing anymore. They sound great and typically setup however you like. That said, my PRS and EBMM aren't going anywhere, but my LTD M1000, which retailed for less than half of those two, is easily on par with them.
 
My bass player just bought a Harley Benson Rick 4001. He has two real RIcks but he loves the way this plays and sounds and doesn't have to worry about one of his Ricks getting ripped off at a gig.
 
I am impressed with my Ibanez RG421 I bought last year, just for the cool finish. Definitely entry level pricing, but the only issue I found was a slightly loose volume knob. I am not even hearing anything negative with the Quantum pikcups in it. Although I may try my Full Shred set I pieced together in it, only because it is conveniently HH.
 
I wish I stayed with, and never heard/saw anything "better" than "entry level quality".

:/

I could play all day, with my Peavey Predator and Digitech RP100 in headphones.

Nowadays, I'm hooking up "frankensteins monster" just to compensate for my lacking skills. lol :D
 
My bass player just bought a Harley Benson Rick 4001. He has two real RIcks but he loves the way this plays and sounds and doesn't have to worry about one of his Ricks getting ripped off at a gig.

I had a blonde 4001, absolutely loved it...amazing tones. But I also totally love my Jazz.
 
OK, so here is a question regarding quality and country of origin.

The heirarchy is (used to be?) USA/Japan, Korea, Mexico/Indonesia, China. I have guitars on my wall made in all these countries. I have enjoyed all of them. The "better" guitars are more attractive, have higher quality finishes, better hardware. The Chinese guitar required more work/repairs when new, and the tolerances were not tight (misaligned pickup ring, other issues) yet the fretwork was surprisingly good. My Indonesia LTD, I can't tell a difference in construction quality compared to the Korean, although the hardware is a lower tier and the finish is more basic.

What about any particular country of origin correlates to quality? Presumably, if Chinese builders were given the same money to build higher quality instuments, they could surpass the other countries? In fact, because their labor costs are lower, if they had the same budget as say Japanese builders, they could theoretically turn out better instruments.

My hunch is that country of origin is still a major selling point that the buyer factors into his purchase, even though it doesn't necessarily correlate with quality. IOW, guitars are still made in these more expensive locations because buyers would not pay a high price for Chinese instruments, even if it resulted in better product.

I do believe in "buy american" and that globalization has undermined prosperity of the middle classes in most nations. So I'm not particularly fond of buying Chinese products given current geopolitics, but I also realize they could build top quality guitars at prices lower than usa/japan if they were so inclined (they manufacture smart phones, which is orders of magnitude more difficult.)
 
OK, so here is a question regarding quality and country of origin.

The heirarchy is (used to be?) USA/Japan, Korea, Mexico/Indonesia, China. I have guitars on my wall made in all these countries. I have enjoyed all of them. The "better" guitars are more attractive, have higher quality finishes, better hardware. The Chinese guitar required more work/repairs when new, and the tolerances were not tight (misaligned pickup ring, other issues) yet the fretwork was surprisingly good. My Indonesia LTD, I can't tell a difference in construction quality compared to the Korean, although the hardware is a lower tier and the finish is more basic.

What about any particular country of origin correlates to quality? Presumably, if Chinese builders were given the same money to build higher quality instuments, they could surpass the other countries? In fact, because their labor costs are lower, if they had the same budget as say Japanese builders, they could theoretically turn out better instruments.

My hunch is that country of origin is still a major selling point that the buyer factors into his purchase, even though it doesn't necessarily correlate with quality. IOW, guitars are still made in these more expensive locations because buyers would not pay a high price for Chinese instruments, even if it resulted in better product.

I do believe in "buy american" and that globalization has undermined prosperity of the middle classes in most nations. So I'm not particularly fond of buying Chinese products given current geopolitics, but I also realize they could build top quality guitars at prices lower than usa/japan if they were so inclined (they manufacture smart phones, which is orders of magnitude more difficult.)

I would argue that for every USA and Japanese mass built guitar brand you love the build of, I can show you an Indonesian or Chinese guitar of pretty much equal quality now.

I think component selection is the real differentiator at this point for any major brand -not the workmanship -as CNC tech and the experience of the finishing luthiers in these factories oversees have enough time under their belt to deliver a quality guitar.

The same applies now as always, there are variations and feels with every guitar in a lot, pick the one that feels and sounds your favorite.


I guess part of the reason I more often buy the expensive stuff now is that I have more money than time to vet and research, whereas when I was younger I had more time than money -so finding the awesome cheaper things made more sense. Now I pay a little more to skip some of that process.
 
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I would argue that for every USA and Japanese mass built guitar brand you love the build of, I can show you an Indonesian or Chinese guitar of pretty much equal quality now.

I whole-heartily agree with this statement. The country of origin is irrelevant. There are great and bad products made in every country, including the USA. There are talented craftsmen and luthiers everywhere, in every country.
 
Imports are generally not as ‘good’ by design, especially if they’re budget lines of bigger name brands. I’m fairly sure the biggest reason things have gotten so much better at the lower end of the price range is cnc.
 
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I am keeping my MIJ guitars as investment. In 10 years all guitars will be either made in Indonesia or Vietnam. You will have to pay custom shop price for a mid range one that used to cost only 600.
 
I’m bass in a sludgy stoner rock band and I talked my guitarist into a new bridge pickup to cut the hum.

These guitars are $300 brand new and have a double action truss rod. I don’t even play guitar anymore and I want one. Mind blown.
 

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