Epiphone Tony Iommi SG 400... what to expect

[astrozombie]

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You're not a parent are you? Hahahahaha! No offence but you 'logic' sounds just like daughter when she complains about her presents....

You have missed the point of my post in it's entirety. Do not settle for mediocrity. What do you have to lose? Worst case scenario you end up with a great spare guitar.

 

[astrozombie]

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A Gibson IS easier to play than an epiphone. No exceptions.

I began practicing daily for hours with a metronome when I finally got a comfortable guitar. I had to go through a no name strat copy and an epiphone to get there.

 

[Dark Order Lord]

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The Iommi SG is all black, matte finish. this is what I'm referring to.

Bro, thats why it looks like a stealth bomber, it looks full sick bro, and sleek like something Batman would play, It would match his full sick car too.... You must like sunburst or somthing right???

 

[Dark Order Lord]

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You have missed the point of my post in it's entirety. Do not settle for mediocrity. What do you have to lose? Worst case scenario you end up with a great spare guitar.

Bro, I already own 1 1990 Gibson Explorer reissue black which hardly comes out due to its value, and two Custom made Grubisa Flying V, one black and one natural, plus I am thinking of copying this SG and getting a Grubisa custom version of this with a maple cap. No one in my family gets to touch those guitars, I don't need a spare...... HahahahahHahahahahah you're funny bro

 

[everdrone]

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Awesome! Down tune that sucker to C# and teach them Into The Void!

yes

teach them sabbath worship too :angryfire

:banana:

 

[Edgecrusher]

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Bro, I already own 1 1990 Gibson Explorer reissue black which hardly comes out due to its value

Since when is a 90 Explorer of untouchable value?

Still to me it sounds like your buying a guitar for yourself not for them. Why not ask them what they want in a guitar? To me a better value is a G400 its the same thing minus aesthetics and pickups. Both of which im willing to bet your daughter wont give a hoot about. The Iommi is terrible value in regards to what your actually getting beyond Iommi's name. But whatever you seem to have major wood for it so I guess have at it.

 

[blueman335]

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a better value is a G400 its the same thing minus aesthetics and pickups. Both of which im willing to bet your daughter wont give a hoot about. The Iommi is terrible value in regards to what your actually getting beyond Iommi's name.

+1. Put better PU's in a regular G-400, easy to find used also.

 

[Funkfingers]

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Regrettably, what I expect, after re-reading these words...

I have heart attacks when anyone touches them.

I will not my daughter touch a real gibson

She has to earn it!!!!!:smack:

for me personally thats why I want it

I know that this Iommi SG will ... satisfy me with me metal tastes, Plus I love 24 frets.....

Lucky for me the Iommi sg comes with grover tuners as well!

your 'logic' sounds just like daughter when she complains about her presents.

No one in my family gets to touch those guitars

...is that your wife and daughter will soon give up learning the guitar and it will end up exactly where you intended from the outset.

 

[Dark Order Lord]

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Since when is a 90 Explorer of untouchable value?

Still to me it sounds like your buying a guitar for yourself not for them. Why not ask them what they want in a guitar? To me a better value is a G400 its the same thing minus aesthetics and pickups. Both of which im willing to bet your daughter wont give a hoot about. The Iommi is terrible value in regards to what your actually getting beyond Iommi's name. But whatever you seem to have major wood for it so I guess have at it.

Don't agree, and if you know your Gibsons dude in 1989-1990 the made a limited run called explorer reissue, NOT the '76 reissue, which a one piece body and came stock with covered dirty finger and bill lawrnce oem pickups and was $400 more in original price than the '76. In 1990 was when I bought it new, and it is still in mint condition in 2012, it was $2195 new in 1990, now its double that price, and when it officially becomes a 'vintage' guitar at 25 years of age it will be valued even more. Know your vintage Gibsons my dude, and you'll see why its better to buy gibson and the stash it away, not for gigs. Thats why I have two custom grubisa's, as great work horse guitars I can respray and refrett them and not worry about their value, unlike the Gibson

 

[XPAULPITT]

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I've always wondered about people who say "Get a Fender, you can replace the neck when it breaks it off." What do these people do with their guitars? Leave them on floor and step on them in the middle of the night? ("Oh damn it Bobbi Sue! That's the second one this week I've broken. I've got to get a flashlight").

Gibsons should not go thru 'hell and back', that's when you use Epi's. With the wear and risks, most local gigs do not warrant Gibsons. You're playing for drunks in a smoke-filled room with bad acoustics, and loading up your car at 2:00AM in a dark alley. Not the place I want to take $5,000 worth of gear.

Glad to hear you're a Gibson-Epi owner. You had me worried. :friday:

It cracks me up when people cry about how Gibson headstocks crack off if you drop ur guitar. Dont drop ur guitar. Are u 5 yrs old and unable to handle a guitar without dropping it? There are also things called straplocks and they really help you keep the guitar on your shoulder. I think this is from people who started on Fenders and got used to them then went on to think that anything else is crap because its not what they prefer. Fenders are nice guitars if you like that sound but they arent the only game in town. It seems to be a thing with humans, and Americans especially, that everything has to be one or the other instead of both are good. If people could get over that type of attitude we would probably have flying cars and cold fusion by now.

 

[Edgecrusher]

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Don't agree, and if you know your Gibsons dude in 1989-1990 the made a limited run called explorer reissue, NOT the '76 reissue, which a one piece body and came stock with covered dirty finger and bill lawrnce oem pickups and was $400 more in original price than the '76. In 1990 when bought it new, and it is in mint condition in 2012, it was $2195, now its double that price, and when it officially becomes a 'vintage' guitar at 25 years of age it will be valued even more. Know your vintage Gibsons my dude, and you'll see why its better to buy gibson and the stash it away, not for gigs. Thats why I have two custom grubisa's, as great work horse guitars I can respray and refrett them and not worry about their value, unlike the Gibson

You make the grave error of assuming I dont know anything about Gibsons. Unless you bought this as an investment its wasted to not play it. I will tell you flat out in this market your smoking crack if you think a 90 Explorer will sell for 4k. I can find original 76's for less than that. The guitar wont magically double in price when it turns 25. Being rare and old doesnt always equate to high value. But whatever its your guitar do as you please.

 

[Funkfingers]

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Uh-oh. Some of yous guys appear to be overdue for a viewing of This Is Spinal Tap.

 

[PonyKiller]

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I've always wondered about people who say "Get a Fender, you can replace the neck when it breaks it off." What do these people do with their guitars? Leave them on floor and step on them in the middle of the night? ("Oh damn it Bobbi Sue! That's the second one this week I've broken. I've got to get a flashlight").

Gibsons should not go thru 'hell and back', that's when you use Epi's. With the wear and risks, most local gigs do not warrant Gibsons. You're playing for drunks in a smoke-filled room with bad acoustics, and loading up your car at 2:00AM in a dark alley. Not the place I want to take $5,000 worth of gear.

Glad to hear you're a Gibson-Epi owner. You had me worried. :friday:

Cheers man :friday: Epi's are true workhorses and with the proper care they would not let you down.
I completely agree on your local gig description. Not the place to lug expensive equipment. I always feel uneasy when I see kids with 2+ grand Gibson Les Pauls on the local punk/metal gigs. I mean, the place doesn't even have a proper stage, much less security! :smack:

 

[Empty Pockets]

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My family doesn't deserve nice things and 1990 was a vintage collectible year.

 

[Kramer Guy]

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I'd go get a ESP LTD Viper 100-FM which is what I have. They're going for $250.00 ( U.S. ) and are IMO, much better sounding than any Epiphone or Squier Standard.

 

[Dark Order Lord]

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Regrettably, what I expect, after re-reading these words...


...is that your wife and daughter will soon give up learning the guitar and it will end up exactly where you intended from the outset.

plllleeeeesee :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

 

[Dark Order Lord]

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You make the grave error of assuming I dont know anything about Gibsons. Unless you bought this as an investment its wasted to not play it. I will tell you flat out in this market your smoking crack if you think a 90 Explorer will sell for 4k. I can find original 76's for less than that. The guitar wont magically double in price when it turns 25. Being rare and old doesnt always equate to high value. But whatever its your guitar do as you please.

Twit... I worked at Guitar Crazy for 9 years and learnt alot about the vintage market, and show me and ORIGINAL 76 for less that $4000 and in mint condition. Gauuud sakes man, this thread was to ask about WHAT TO EXPECT from the Iommi SG 400 and its strayed into these pathetic rants about buying a Gibson or buying a regular sg 400. I played it yesterday, and compared to my customs the Iommi 400 sounds like a tinny piece of crap, as I predicted like all Epiphones do, but my Gibson explorer also sounds tiny compared to my customs. But for the purpose as family guitar it is perfect, my wife tried it and she felt it was comfortable and liked it, and it decent enough for me having 24 fretts and USA pickups that sounded very sabbath... so end of this thread for me.

 

[Dark Order Lord]

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Cheers man :friday: Epi's are true workhorses and with the proper care they would not let you down.
I completely agree on your local gig description. Not the place to lug expensive equipment. I always feel uneasy when I see kids with 2+ grand Gibson Les Pauls on the local punk/metal gigs. I mean, the place doesn't even have a proper stage, much less security! :smack:

Well I had go of it yesterday, and like all Epiphones it sounds tiny and stiff sounding, but mind you I'm sure as soon as I put some 11's D'addarios, set the pickup heights and intonation it will improve alot, and thats why I want it for home, where I won't be so bothered about it, who plays it or what damage it will incur be it from friends and teenagers

 

[Dark Order Lord]

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I'd go get a ESP LTD Viper 100-FM which is what I have. They're going for $250.00 ( U.S. ) and are IMO, much better sounding than any Epiphone or Squier Standard.

Well those ESP's go for a lot more here and I always found them weird looking. Sound wise I played one at the shop and it had the same tininess, probably cause they're made in the same factory in china