ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

[GuitarGuru88]

Hey,

Well heres another poll to help me decide on things :laugh2:

Schecter:
CONSTRUCTION/SCALE: Set-neck w/ Ultra Access / 25.5”
BODY: Mahogany
NECK/FINGERBOARD: Maple/Rosewood
FRETS: 24 X-Jumbo
INLAYS: Black Pearl Dots
PICKUPS: Seymour Duncan JB / ‘59
ELECTRONICS: Vol/Tone/5-Way
BRIDGE: TonePros TOM w/ Thru-body
BINDING: Multi-Ply
TUNERS: Grover
HARDWARE: Black Chrome
COLOR: Gloss Black (BLK)

ESP Ltd:

FEATURES: set-thru construction; 25.5” scale; mahogany body w/flamed maple top; 3-piece maple neck; rosewood fingerboard; dot inlays w/model name at 12th fret; Seymour Duncan JB/59 zebra pickups; volume & tone controls w/5-way Ultraswitch; black hardware; Grover tuners; Earvana Compensated Nut; Tune-o-matic bridge w/stop tailpiece; natural binding on body: white binding on neck & headstock; 24 XJ frets
FINISHES: Amber Cherry Sunburst (ACSB), Amber Sunburst (ASB)

 

[frigginalex]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

Never played the ESP, but the Schecter's good.

 

[GuitarGuru88]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

I forgot to show you guys the guitars so here they are:

 

[FELIX57]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

i chose esp because at least for me its a lot more comfortable to play and my hand doesnt slip or feel awkward as it does on string throughs i played s-1 and that was my only problem

 

[Rotten Guitar String]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

They're both pretty much the same in terms of specs and quality. I'd go with the Ltd though because of the flame top, and I think it feels better to play.

 

[FELIX57]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

my guitarist has a esp and its i think horizon 350 and its a neck thru and it rocks even know its humbuckers are sd designed

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

Schecter, I like the lack of model inlay at the 12th fret, the Tonepros bridge, design of the archtop, and string thru instead of stop tailpiece.

 

[GuitarGuru88]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

Schecter, I like the lack of model inlay at the 12th fret, the Tonepros bridge, design of the archtop, and string thru instead of stop tailpiece.

But wouldnt the neck-thru compansate for any loss of sustain caused by the stopbar tail piece?

Plus I heard somewhere that set neck was the poorest of neck joints

 

[FELIX57]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

But wouldnt the neck-thru compansate for any loss of sustain caused by the stopbar tail piece?

Plus I heard somewhere that set neck was the poorest of neck joints

im not sure but even though my friends guitar of a lower model number has the neck thru i dont know if the others have it which i think is weird

i also heard set necks have the poorest of neck joints i dont know if thats true because if you look at all these cheaply made guitars all of them are bolt on and when you get @ 450 range then you start getting set necks

i think maybe certain problems are more commonly seen like necks slipping out or if the neck breaks its harder to replace but it other than that it doesnt make sense

 

[Rotten Guitar String]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

The H-400 is not a neck-through, its a "set-through", which is a set-neck but with a carved away heel so it feels like a neck-through. Exactly what the Schecter has.

 

[TattooedCarrot]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

I like oth Ltd and Schecter, but I've always hated the sperm squiggle looking headstock on the H series, so I vote for the Schecter.

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

But wouldnt the neck-thru compansate for any loss of sustain caused by the stopbar tail piece?

Plus I heard somewhere that set neck was the poorest of neck joints

Not a sustain issue; it's a feel and setup issue for me. I like the look and feel of string thru better, and if you ever wanted to put tonepro's on the LTD, which the Schecter comes stock with , it'd cost more.

There is no 'better' neck joint, as far as bolt-on/setneck/neckthru is concerned. The only differences between then is feel, response, and sound, unless of course it's a shoddy contact between the neck and body. As long as it's a tight fit between neck and body, they all should sustain roughly the same.

 

[viewaskew2k5]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

schecter all the way dude, best bang for your buck.

 

[GuitarGuru88]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

thanks guys but should I get the blackjack or elite?

 

[Limelight]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

Schecter blackjack all the way!! :saeek:

 

[GuitarGuru88]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

Schecter blackjack all the way!! :saeek:

Why do you say that Chris?

 

[ankalar]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

I would go for the Schecter. As for hearing that set-neck is the worst neck joint, well that's a pretty bold (and not so accurate) statement.

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

Blackjack; stock duncans.

 

[GuitarGuru88]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

Blackjack; stock duncans.

That is a very solid point there! But what if I dont want a black finished guitar? Other than that...loving the Blackjack....but I also am loving the Elite!

 

[GuitarGuru88]

Re: ESP Ltd H-400 or Schecter C-1 Blackjack?

The H-400 is not a neck-through, its a "set-through", which is a set-neck but with a carved away heel so it feels like a neck-through. Exactly what the Schecter has.

Then explain this!
*Just click the guitar pick for more pics*

Looks like Neck-thru to me!