Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
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One of Jerry's Kids
Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
Me either. I could easily get $200 taken off the price of that guitar. If anyone hits the add to cart button on any guitar they are a fool. That is where the conversation starts.
Me either. I could easily get $200 taken off the price of that guitar. If anyone hits the add to cart button on any guitar they are a fool. That is where the conversation starts.
thespricket
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
Haha, take a look behind the headstock! I believe that comes stock on nearly alllll production models. Also I think it's lame that they're doing away with all of their lesser expensive satin finished guitars and jacking up all prices of everything else.
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Haha, take a look behind the headstock! I believe that comes stock on nearly alllll production models. Also I think it's lame that they're doing away with all of their lesser expensive satin finished guitars and jacking up all prices of everything else.
Guitar->pedals->amp
King IzzO)))
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
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Chris of Arabia
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
Some of the new features I quite like; bridge adjustment, nut adjustment being the main ones. Others, I'm less sold on; Terminator tuning, and lower(!) frets being the main ones. Finish options? Meh... they are what they are. What I don't see is where all that money on the price tag is going though. There's just not enough to get me interested at the old price, nevermind the new one.
Some of the new features I quite like; bridge adjustment, nut adjustment being the main ones. Others, I'm less sold on; Terminator tuning, and lower(!) frets being the main ones. Finish options? Meh... they are what they are. What I don't see is where all that money on the price tag is going though. There's just not enough to get me interested at the old price, nevermind the new one.
ItsaBass
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If they are actually made any better than they have been in recent years...sure I would. I got my 2001 Jr. for $650 new, and it's one of the best and most well made guitars I've ever owned. If just as good, I can see it costing $250 more 13 years later...but not if it is made the way most Gibsons have been made over the past 10 years. Charging a lot for a great product is fine by me. Charging a lot for a product that is notably worse than a product that costs half as much is ridiculous. I can only hope that the free market gang rapes them up the ass till they bleed near to death and have to sell to someone who actually cares about musical instruments.
If they are actually made any better than they have been in recent years...sure I would. I got my 2001 Jr. for $650 new, and it's one of the best and most well made guitars I've ever owned. If just as good, I can see it costing $250 more 13 years later...but not if it is made the way most Gibsons have been made over the past 10 years. Charging a lot for a great product is fine by me. Charging a lot for a product that is notably worse than a product that costs half as much is ridiculous. I can only hope that the free market gang rapes them up the ass till they bleed near to death and have to sell to someone who actually cares about musical instruments.
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superpete
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
i've played some of them. the new neck profile just feels wrong on a les paul. its very similar to the old 61 sg reissues, wide and flat. doesn't feel bad per se, but just feels weird on a les paul. the tuners i don't like, the new headstock signature is lame, the zero fret is pointless to me, and the new case is just bizarre for a gibson.
i'm all for trying new things and looking for new ideas in guitar, but when you have such a great legacy as gibson does, why not offer at least one guitar made the way a lot of people really want?
i've played some of them. the new neck profile just feels wrong on a les paul. its very similar to the old 61 sg reissues, wide and flat. doesn't feel bad per se, but just feels weird on a les paul. the tuners i don't like, the new headstock signature is lame, the zero fret is pointless to me, and the new case is just bizarre for a gibson.
i'm all for trying new things and looking for new ideas in guitar, but when you have such a great legacy as gibson does, why not offer at least one guitar made the way a lot of people really want?
Aasinsilta
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$1800 for an SG Standard? Maybe Gibson is trying to commit suicide by slowly pushing people towards the used market and custom builders.
$1800 for an SG Standard? Maybe Gibson is trying to commit suicide by slowly pushing people towards the used market and custom builders.
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One of Jerry's Kids
Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
Granted but Gibson has introduced tons of new product and features over the years. Some of the stuff is embarrassing and some of it we laugh at. You have to give them credit for innovating and not relying on the same design to sustain the company.
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Granted but Gibson has introduced tons of new product and features over the years. Some of the stuff is embarrassing and some of it we laugh at. You have to give them credit for innovating and not relying on the same design to sustain the company.
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Oinkus
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Not an ebony board on any of them and I am sure they will be substituting richlite for it anyway. Nothing jumps out at me much but the Special DC has some promise. Kind of pointless for me to bash Gibson been my number 1 guitar for 33 years, it was $400 though and that was a fortune for a 19yo kid.
Not an ebony board on any of them and I am sure they will be substituting richlite for it anyway. Nothing jumps out at me much but the Special DC has some promise. Kind of pointless for me to bash Gibson been my number 1 guitar for 33 years, it was $400 though and that was a fortune for a 19yo kid.
hydro
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
One of my USAs has richlite (or whatever that ebony-looking synthetic wood is called). I don't mind it so much although it turned my fingertips black at first!
This guitar was made at a time when Gibson was having some hassles sourcing wood I think.
Regarding auto-tuners, to me I just think "something else to break that I probably can't fix easily myself", and if you are used to tuning on the fly I can't imagine it being much help. I assume they have batteries or something? Like I want that hassle to deal with in the middle of a damn show.
I can't imagine that they will last. I don't blame Gibson for trying something new, in fact I think it's cool that they try new stuff; and there may be players that dig 'em, but just offer them as a factory option/upgrade no different from color instead of shoving them down everyone's throat, making people yank them off and put Grovers on them.
One of my USAs has richlite (or whatever that ebony-looking synthetic wood is called). I don't mind it so much although it turned my fingertips black at first!
This guitar was made at a time when Gibson was having some hassles sourcing wood I think.
Regarding auto-tuners, to me I just think "something else to break that I probably can't fix easily myself", and if you are used to tuning on the fly I can't imagine it being much help. I assume they have batteries or something? Like I want that hassle to deal with in the middle of a damn show.
I can't imagine that they will last. I don't blame Gibson for trying something new, in fact I think it's cool that they try new stuff; and there may be players that dig 'em, but just offer them as a factory option/upgrade no different from color instead of shoving them down everyone's throat, making people yank them off and put Grovers on them.
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One of Jerry's Kids
Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
My problem with the auto-tuners is they rob young players of a valuable ear training lesson. Listening to the frequencies align as you learn to tune a guitar is one of those ah ha moments. Electronic tuners have robbed a lot of guitarists from the valuable lesson of learning to listen, auto-tuners are 10 times worse. Knowing the instrument is 90% of the craft.
My problem with the auto-tuners is they rob young players of a valuable ear training lesson. Listening to the frequencies align as you learn to tune a guitar is one of those ah ha moments. Electronic tuners have robbed a lot of guitarists from the valuable lesson of learning to listen, auto-tuners are 10 times worse. Knowing the instrument is 90% of the craft.
Archer250
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
Good. It means less competition.
Good. It means less competition.
SoundAt11
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
Really frustrating
The 2014 lineup was pretty good. I actually liked the anniversary inlay and there were a lot of nice improvements and great deals.
A new SGJ with a thin finish and quartersawn neck for $480 is great deal and so is the LPJ for around $650 if you shop around.
Now we have the least expensive model being a $899 Junior. Everything now has a gloss finish ($$), hard case ($$), that ugly "Les Paul 100" writing scrawled on the headstock with a gold paint Sharpie, low (!) fretwire on a new guitar, robot tuners on all the normal models ($$), and a lot of other "improvements" that cost more money (coil taps, boosts, phase switches), etc.
The metal zero-fret nut and hex-adjust bridge might be interesting, so I'll reserve judgment on those.
It's a real shame. I think they dropped price so much in 2014 that they decided to practically double them for 2015 to make up for the loss. I really want a closeout 2014 LPJ, SGJ, or Melody Maker while I still have the chance.
And just for comparison sake, the flag ship model, the Les Paul Standard is now $3700. Fender's flagship American Standard Strat is only $1300. So for the price of one Les Paul Standard, you could get one new USA Strat, a 2014 Les Paul Studio/LPJ/LPM, and have $1700 left over to buy a new US-made tube amp and effects. That's a full rig!
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Really frustrating
The 2014 lineup was pretty good. I actually liked the anniversary inlay and there were a lot of nice improvements and great deals.
A new SGJ with a thin finish and quartersawn neck for $480 is great deal and so is the LPJ for around $650 if you shop around.
Now we have the least expensive model being a $899 Junior. Everything now has a gloss finish ($$), hard case ($$), that ugly "Les Paul 100" writing scrawled on the headstock with a gold paint Sharpie, low (!) fretwire on a new guitar, robot tuners on all the normal models ($$), and a lot of other "improvements" that cost more money (coil taps, boosts, phase switches), etc.
The metal zero-fret nut and hex-adjust bridge might be interesting, so I'll reserve judgment on those.
It's a real shame. I think they dropped price so much in 2014 that they decided to practically double them for 2015 to make up for the loss. I really want a closeout 2014 LPJ, SGJ, or Melody Maker while I still have the chance.
And just for comparison sake, the flag ship model, the Les Paul Standard is now $3700. Fender's flagship American Standard Strat is only $1300. So for the price of one Les Paul Standard, you could get one new USA Strat, a 2014 Les Paul Studio/LPJ/LPM, and have $1700 left over to buy a new US-made tube amp and effects. That's a full rig!
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LRS
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup
If you care about the headstock, get yourself that Gibby. Otherwise, go buy virtually the same or better for 1/2 the price from the lovely people from good old Kalamazoo. Happy H150 owner here...
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If you care about the headstock, get yourself that Gibby. Otherwise, go buy virtually the same or better for 1/2 the price from the lovely people from good old Kalamazoo. Happy H150 owner here...
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