Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
all true.
all true.
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
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Bludave
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Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
Agreed. The Silverface Twins are a bargain today. Just avoid the Master volume era. You really want something from 68 through 73 or 74(not sure). When Fender added the MV they changed a lot of other issues too & it really deteriorated the sound of these great amps.
Another option is a Dual Showman, which is essentially a Twin in a head format. Great clean headroom & with the right speakers they sound awesome.
Not trying to steer you away from The HR series but they are not designed to be really clean. Even the Clean channel is not too clean once you get the volume up.
Agreed. The Silverface Twins are a bargain today. Just avoid the Master volume era. You really want something from 68 through 73 or 74(not sure). When Fender added the MV they changed a lot of other issues too & it really deteriorated the sound of these great amps.
Another option is a Dual Showman, which is essentially a Twin in a head format. Great clean headroom & with the right speakers they sound awesome.
Not trying to steer you away from The HR series but they are not designed to be really clean. Even the Clean channel is not too clean once you get the volume up.
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guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
Another good choice for super loud clean is a Music Man HD-150 into 2 or 4 very efficient speakers. I had one for years, and they'll get loud enough to shake the framing of a decent sized room loose.
Another good choice for super loud clean is a Music Man HD-150 into 2 or 4 very efficient speakers. I had one for years, and they'll get loud enough to shake the framing of a decent sized room loose.
Powdered Toast Man
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Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
WTF band are you practicing with? I play in a Stones tribute band and I can get away with using my 5 watt Champ in practice. My other guitarist uses his Traynor YCV20 (15 watts). Most bands I've been in practice with the rule that if you can't hear the kick drum (unmiked) then everyone is too loud.
My SRRI is 45 watts and that thing is take the paint off the walls loud at about 7 on the volume knob. I used to have a HRDv 212 and I fully agree with ImmortalSix that it's brutally loud.
WTF band are you practicing with? I play in a Stones tribute band and I can get away with using my 5 watt Champ in practice. My other guitarist uses his Traynor YCV20 (15 watts). Most bands I've been in practice with the rule that if you can't hear the kick drum (unmiked) then everyone is too loud.
My SRRI is 45 watts and that thing is take the paint off the walls loud at about 7 on the volume knob. I used to have a HRDv 212 and I fully agree with ImmortalSix that it's brutally loud.
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Bludave
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Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
I was bringing a DR to rehearsals & I couldn't get the volume over 3 to 4. Its strange because in the rehearsal space we rented they had 2 100W Marshall's. The room was maybe twice the size of a standard living room. The first two or three times we were in there I was adjusting every knob trying to find something that was decent & not too loud. Then I brought the Deluxe & there it was. Don't know if I could gig with it in some rooms, but for practice its a good amp for sure. Great amps, but you really have to mike them once you get over 150 people sized rooms.. It just allows you to keep the volume down where you want it.
I was bringing a DR to rehearsals & I couldn't get the volume over 3 to 4. Its strange because in the rehearsal space we rented they had 2 100W Marshall's. The room was maybe twice the size of a standard living room. The first two or three times we were in there I was adjusting every knob trying to find something that was decent & not too loud. Then I brought the Deluxe & there it was. Don't know if I could gig with it in some rooms, but for practice its a good amp for sure. Great amps, but you really have to mike them once you get over 150 people sized rooms.. It just allows you to keep the volume down where you want it.
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
theres nothing really wrong with HR series cleans (or dirty channel for that matter) - plus there are plenty of easy and popular mods to tweak them to taste. Its just that the cabs are cheaply constructed and they rattle.
theres nothing really wrong with HR series cleans (or dirty channel for that matter) - plus there are plenty of easy and popular mods to tweak them to taste. Its just that the cabs are cheaply constructed and they rattle.
ImmortalSix
John Mayer's Mankini
Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
Great point - OP, please take note.
Great point - OP, please take note.
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
A prog band that has to go from clean and pretty to big and dirty and everything in between. Clean headroom and audible dynamics are key, i mean with a little amp you can't softly strum big chords for that dead-clean chime and be heard, nor can you get enough... bass, intensity, amount of air moving needed to play big parts
In a stones tribute band I could see how a little amp would work though, i mean if you're drummer's got like a catalina club kit or something with an 18" bass drum and you pretty much play at two-ish levels of intensity at places where people sit and talk a small amp is perfect. There's a band in town that has a doorsy kinda vibe and dude uses an ac15, sounds great.
A prog band that has to go from clean and pretty to big and dirty and everything in between. Clean headroom and audible dynamics are key, i mean with a little amp you can't softly strum big chords for that dead-clean chime and be heard, nor can you get enough... bass, intensity, amount of air moving needed to play big parts
In a stones tribute band I could see how a little amp would work though, i mean if you're drummer's got like a catalina club kit or something with an 18" bass drum and you pretty much play at two-ish levels of intensity at places where people sit and talk a small amp is perfect. There's a band in town that has a doorsy kinda vibe and dude uses an ac15, sounds great.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
I don't see your need for 4x12s, nobody needs to be that loud, except for J Mascis.
I don't see your need for 4x12s, nobody needs to be that loud, except for J Mascis.
jazzman1021
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Re: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 loud and clean?
I have been playing music for about 60 years; 55 of those have been guitar of all genres. I now play jazz and blues. Being on a pension,$$$$$$$is now an issue to me and I can speak from experience that the newer FenderHotRodDeVilleIII(212) is one of the best sounding amps I have had (I've had many over the years.). I don't use any pedals and my guitar is a Stratocaster. It took some work adjusting knobs both on the amp and guitar to get the sound I want, but I was pleasantly surprised.. Plenty of clean and OD when I need it for blues, loud or not so loud. I bought the amp used, changed tubes and am very pleased with the way it sounds. Lots of bang for the buck(I got mine for $400). Since I don't think Fender is coming out with that "jazzman1021" signature model in the near future, I will be happy experimenting and making music.
JM1021
I have been playing music for about 60 years; 55 of those have been guitar of all genres. I now play jazz and blues. Being on a pension,$$$$$$$is now an issue to me and I can speak from experience that the newer FenderHotRodDeVilleIII(212) is one of the best sounding amps I have had (I've had many over the years.). I don't use any pedals and my guitar is a Stratocaster. It took some work adjusting knobs both on the amp and guitar to get the sound I want, but I was pleasantly surprised.. Plenty of clean and OD when I need it for blues, loud or not so loud. I bought the amp used, changed tubes and am very pleased with the way it sounds. Lots of bang for the buck(I got mine for $400). Since I don't think Fender is coming out with that "jazzman1021" signature model in the near future, I will be happy experimenting and making music.
JM1021
