fender reissues
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drpietrzak
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The Super Reverb is a classic here for SRV. But, I like the Bassman better.
The Super Reverb is a classic here for SRV. But, I like the Bassman better.
Gunny47
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Out of those, I'd pick the Super Reverb, closest to what SRV used, not too clean for the blues edge (like the Twin Reverb is) and has the reverb. Out of all of those, I think the Super Reverb is the best amp anyway for the money. I'm not a fan of the '59 Bassman much, and if you want a Tweed for cheap, get an already built Tweed kit from a guy like Weber or Mission amps or something similar.
Out of those, I'd pick the Super Reverb, closest to what SRV used, not too clean for the blues edge (like the Twin Reverb is) and has the reverb. Out of all of those, I think the Super Reverb is the best amp anyway for the money. I'm not a fan of the '59 Bassman much, and if you want a Tweed for cheap, get an already built Tweed kit from a guy like Weber or Mission amps or something similar.
CapoFirstFret
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Ok seriously, if you're going for blues/rock, reverb is essential...bottom line. So that alone just weeded out the Bassman (assuming no other variants here). Now out of the two remaining amps...the Twin Reverb is too loud, too clean, and too heavy (physically heavy, not tonally heavy) to really do what you want unless we're talking old school R&B Blues where they tried to stay as clean as possible.
This leaves you with a Super Reverb which in my opinion was developed plain and simply for the blues/rock player. Lower wattage so you get that power amp distortion sooner, great reverb, and 10" speakers which give you a very punchy tone. I play through a 1970 SF Super Reverb and let me tell you it's one of the greatest amps ever, I love that thing *so* much. Perfect for the SRV in all of us
There is a reason blues rockers such as SRV, Derek Trucks, Anthony Gomes, and many others use the Super Reverbs! The tone is there, all you gotta do is enjoy it.
Ok seriously, if you're going for blues/rock, reverb is essential...bottom line. So that alone just weeded out the Bassman (assuming no other variants here). Now out of the two remaining amps...the Twin Reverb is too loud, too clean, and too heavy (physically heavy, not tonally heavy) to really do what you want unless we're talking old school R&B Blues where they tried to stay as clean as possible.
This leaves you with a Super Reverb which in my opinion was developed plain and simply for the blues/rock player. Lower wattage so you get that power amp distortion sooner, great reverb, and 10" speakers which give you a very punchy tone. I play through a 1970 SF Super Reverb and let me tell you it's one of the greatest amps ever, I love that thing *so* much. Perfect for the SRV in all of us
There is a reason blues rockers such as SRV, Derek Trucks, Anthony Gomes, and many others use the Super Reverbs! The tone is there, all you gotta do is enjoy it.
Bludave
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Capo first fret got it. But what he did not say is buy a used one. A early Silverface Non master volume would be my choice. A blackface would be better, but will cost a lot more. I look at these kind of purchases a little differently. I feel they are long term investments. I bought my Super Reverb (1968) about 15 years ago. I paid a little more than $500 for it. At the time if you shpped around I may have been able to find one for less, but look at what the RI is going for now and what you can get a used SF for. The SF may be a little more $, but will sound a ton better! A BF will cost about double the RI, but lets face it the BF SR is one of the best amps EVER!!
Capo first fret got it. But what he did not say is buy a used one. A early Silverface Non master volume would be my choice. A blackface would be better, but will cost a lot more. I look at these kind of purchases a little differently. I feel they are long term investments. I bought my Super Reverb (1968) about 15 years ago. I paid a little more than $500 for it. At the time if you shpped around I may have been able to find one for less, but look at what the RI is going for now and what you can get a used SF for. The SF may be a little more $, but will sound a ton better! A BF will cost about double the RI, but lets face it the BF SR is one of the best amps EVER!!
CapoFirstFret
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Amen right here. Look at the price he paid for his. I paid $1000 for mine and only had to have one speaker reconed! I felt like I had ripped the poor guy off! Mine's a 1970, all original and in FANTASTIC condition. ..I have pics at the link in my signature if you want to see it. They're only gonna go up in price, so if you want one, gotta get it now while the gettin is good ...and on another note, I recommend keeping it stock instead of "blackfacing" it. Mine sounds so good I wouldn't even consider blackfacing it.
Bludave said:
Amen right here. Look at the price he paid for his. I paid $1000 for mine and only had to have one speaker reconed! I felt like I had ripped the poor guy off! Mine's a 1970, all original and in FANTASTIC condition. ..I have pics at the link in my signature if you want to see it. They're only gonna go up in price, so if you want one, gotta get it now while the gettin is good
...and on another note, I recommend keeping it stock instead of "blackfacing" it. Mine sounds so good I wouldn't even consider blackfacing it.
Robert Delahunt
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I only voted '65 Reissue because they're very loud. If they're not "dirty" enough, you might need to run a blues overdrive or even a mild distortion in front of the amp.
I only voted '65 Reissue because they're very loud. If they're not "dirty" enough, you might need to run a blues overdrive or even a mild distortion in front of the amp.
Baltar
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great response buddies - thanks a lot ...
it could be difficult to find such an old silverface where i live.
the amps sold in us have power supplies for different voltages ...
so in case the seek for a 1970 super reverb is without luck,
would the 65 reissue superreverb or bassman (+ some reverb) be
the better choice?
great response buddies - thanks a lot ...
it could be difficult to find such an old silverface where i live.
the amps sold in us have power supplies for different voltages ...
so in case the seek for a 1970 super reverb is without luck,
would the 65 reissue superreverb or bassman (+ some reverb) be
the better choice?
Robert Delahunt
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My opinion, if you have the cash for a '65 reissue, I would get it, unless you can find a better deal in a vintage amp. As for power adapting, the tube amps (at least in my experience with my own) are VERY sensitive to power: make sure the power is conditioned very well. Case in point, I have a small practice amp I bought in Korea that they just put a power chord adapter on (i.e. no change in voltage). That thing screams at 3 lol. If I ever need to record a very krappy sound on a song, I'll use that thing lol. My next stunt might be to run it all the way up just to have fun watching it burn. Another thing, my '72 sounded better back in the states versus in korea (because the on-base dorms had sucky power). What I'm saying is get a power transformer to change the voltages, and possibly a power conditioner / UPS also. Good luck!
And remember, I'm partial to the Twin Reverbs. They might not be the best choice. Let your ears be your guide.
Baltar said:
My opinion, if you have the cash for a '65 reissue, I would get it, unless you can find a better deal in a vintage amp. As for power adapting, the tube amps (at least in my experience with my own) are VERY sensitive to power: make sure the power is conditioned very well. Case in point, I have a small practice amp I bought in Korea that they just put a power chord adapter on (i.e. no change in voltage). That thing screams at 3 lol. If I ever need to record a very krappy sound on a song, I'll use that thing lol. My next stunt might be to run it all the way up just to have fun watching it burn. Another thing, my '72 sounded better back in the states versus in korea (because the on-base dorms had sucky power). What I'm saying is get a power transformer to change the voltages, and possibly a power conditioner / UPS also. Good luck!
And remember, I'm partial to the Twin Reverbs. They might not be the best choice. Let your ears be your guide.
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CapoFirstFret
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I'm still gonna say, that for the blues your best bet is a super reverb, period.
Baltar said:
I'm still gonna say, that for the blues your best bet is a super reverb, period.
Soujurn
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If you only plan on going for that SRV sound, or 60's blues rock sound, then yeah, the Super is the way to go. But for versatility, I'd get a Twin, and some good pedals like Line 6 Verbzilla, a RI TS-9 or OD-808, and a decent compressor like a Dynacomp. Then you can get your SRV tones, country, rock, just about anything except metal. Just my 2cents.
If you only plan on going for that SRV sound, or 60's blues rock sound, then yeah, the Super is the way to go. But for versatility, I'd get a Twin, and some good pedals like Line 6 Verbzilla, a RI TS-9 or OD-808, and a decent compressor like a Dynacomp. Then you can get your SRV tones, country, rock, just about anything except metal. Just my 2cents.
Robert Delahunt
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My 2 cents? Boss ME-50 multieffects (or a multieffects) versus a bunch of standalone effects (unless you can find all those stomp boxes for cheaper, but still there's the impedance matching issue and EMI issues). Not trying to knock your gear list though. But still, if the o.p. is in Austria, Boss ME-50: there's a german "sounds of heros" PDF that came in german, so I would think that somewhere there's a ME-50 vibe going on that he might be able to get involved in.
Just my 2 cents....
Soujurn said:
My 2 cents? Boss ME-50 multieffects (or a multieffects) versus a bunch of standalone effects (unless you can find all those stomp boxes for cheaper, but still there's the impedance matching issue and EMI issues). Not trying to knock your gear list though. But still, if the o.p. is in Austria, Boss ME-50: there's a german "sounds of heros" PDF that came in german, so I would think that somewhere there's a ME-50 vibe going on that he might be able to get involved in.
Just my 2 cents....
CapoFirstFret
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My main styles of music are country and blues and I get them all. I also do amazing rock tones on my super reverb. It can do whatever tone you want. I even play jazz gigs with it, just gotta know how to tweak it just right for the tone I need. It's just very very well suited towards blues and rock music.
Soujurn said:
My main styles of music are country and blues and I get them all. I also do amazing rock tones on my super reverb. It can do whatever tone you want. I even play jazz gigs with it, just gotta know how to tweak it just right for the tone I need. It's just very very well suited towards blues and rock music.
Robert Delahunt
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Cool, I should try one....
CapoFirstFret said:
Cool, I should try one....
Bludave
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Here's the major drawback to ANY of the RI amps that Fender makes. The tube sockets are mounted on PC boards. When the amp gets used a lot the solder joints on the PC boards will heat up and become suspect. This will cause the amps to become noisey. It is all repairable, but if you can find an old one I think they are more reliable. Even an old amp from the late 60's early 70's will require some repairs. The caps and resistors have a life span of about 25 years, so they may need to be changed.
As someone else said if you are planning on playing SRV type of blues reverb will be necessary. If you buy a Bassman(this is a nice amp also) buy the Fender Reverb unit it will make a huge difference. If $ are not a concer consider the 57 tweed Twin. This is 50W and also does not have reverb, but it is point to point construction and will be much more reliable IMO.
Here's the major drawback to ANY of the RI amps that Fender makes. The tube sockets are mounted on PC boards. When the amp gets used a lot the solder joints on the PC boards will heat up and become suspect. This will cause the amps to become noisey. It is all repairable, but if you can find an old one I think they are more reliable. Even an old amp from the late 60's early 70's will require some repairs. The caps and resistors have a life span of about 25 years, so they may need to be changed.
As someone else said if you are planning on playing SRV type of blues reverb will be necessary. If you buy a Bassman(this is a nice amp also) buy the Fender Reverb unit it will make a huge difference. If $ are not a concer consider the 57 tweed Twin. This is 50W and also does not have reverb, but it is point to point construction and will be much more reliable IMO.
Baltar
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yeah, many manufacturers do it like that now :blackeye: , but in case i could fix it ..
thanks everyone for sharing.
i will look for an old super reverb, if i can't find anything senseful
i see if i can afford a bassman+reverb unit
cheers
Martin
Bludave said:
yeah, many manufacturers do it like that now :blackeye: , but in case i could fix it ..
thanks everyone for sharing.
i will look for an old super reverb, if i can't find anything senseful
i see if i can afford a bassman+reverb unit
cheers
Martin
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Baltar
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after all your sharing, i went out to find and test those amps, which is
not that easy where i live.
i was lucky to find a 59'Bassman and tried it out a little ...
oh man, this is my dream amp. so pure, such a nice attack but on the other
hand incredible smooth somehow.
i haven't found a super reverb so far, but will keep on looing.
i anyway need to save money some time to get that done. the offer
price for me would be 1280.- eurobucks, which isn't a bad price for
an austrian shop. *sigh*
perhaps it's time for some ebay sells again :-\
after all your sharing, i went out to find and test those amps, which is
not that easy where i live.
i was lucky to find a 59'Bassman and tried it out a little ...
oh man, this is my dream amp. so pure, such a nice attack but on the other
hand incredible smooth somehow.
i haven't found a super reverb so far, but will keep on looing.
i anyway need to save money some time to get that done. the offer
price for me would be 1280.- eurobucks, which isn't a bad price for
an austrian shop. *sigh*
perhaps it's time for some ebay sells again :-\
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