Fishman Fluence Wiring help

[sherminator19]

Hi, new to this forum, but I've got a little bit of experience with wiring pickups into guitars: I've currently got 2 Strats (HSH and SSS), both with super switches and S-1 switches, with the wiring done myself.

However, these are "standard" passive pickups, 4 conductor HB's and 3 conductor (noiseless) SC's, so I can understand what's going on. I recently managed to get a REALLY good deal on a set of Fishman Fluence Classics, but these are wired completely differently to 4 wire humbuckers and I'm confused.

What can I do with the Fluences, an S-1 Switch (4PDT), and 2xDPDT switched pots? I'm sorry to ask such a broad question, but I'm lost. I know I can do Series/Parallel etc. with regular humbuckers, but the fluences have to always be wired in parallel, and stuff like that. I'm thinking - use one DPDT for the pickup voicing and one for an out-of-phase middle position. Then use the S-1/Super Switch combo to get coil splits and HF tilt thingies.

Something like:

1 - Bride
2 - Bridge + Neck (Out of Phase)
3 - Bridge + Neck
4 - Bridge + Neck (Half Out of Phase)
5 - Neck

S-1 Switch: Coil Split
Neck tone: Neck Voicing
Bridge tone: Bridge Voicing
2x SPST dip switches in trem cavity: Neck and Bridge HF Tilt

I've been sketching some ideas of how to wire this up, but it feels a bit unimaginative. I'd have quite liked to do some kind of series parallel thing with the splits. Also, I have no idea how I'd flip the phase of the bridge with the Fluence wires.

Could someone give me a hand with the wiring of these pickups?

Cheers

 

[sherminator19]

Re: Fishman Fluence Wiring help

Right, so I've managed to come up with the following wiring diagram. I'd really appreciate it if someone could check it for me to see if it's good. I can't solder in my flat so I'll have to take it to a tech to get it worked out:

 

[sherminator19]

Re: Fishman Fluence Wiring help

I know this is a Seymour Duncan Forum, but is there really no one here who could just take a look at this to see if it works? I thought there was someone from Fishman who lurks on here...

 

[frankfalbo]

Re: Fishman Fluence Wiring help

At first glance it looks like you have the pickup hots each going to 4 switch positions, but you only seem to want them going to 3 positions each:

B
B
BN
N
N

 

[sherminator19]

Re: Fishman Fluence Wiring help

At first glance it looks like you have the pickup hots each going to 4 switch positions, but you only seem to want them going to 3 positions each:

B
B
BN
N
N

Thanks for the reply!

I've actually decided on a change for the wiring, because I'm not too keen on the HF tilt sound (from the demos), but I've liked the HOoP sound in my other Strat.

At the bottom left corner of the image you will see the new switching scheme:

B
B+N (OoP)
B+N
B+N (HOoP)
N

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Fishman Fluence Wiring help

I may just not be used to the same terminology as you, but what is an HF tilt?

 

[sherminator19]

Re: Fishman Fluence Wiring help

I may just not be used to the same terminology as you, but what is an HF tilt?

It's something in the Fluence circuit. Think of it like a darker setting for the pickups. It "tilts" the high frequencies. You can switch the HF Tilt circuit, jump it to have it always on, or just insulate the tip to keep it always off.

 

[sherminator19]

Re: Fishman Fluence Wiring help

So, I just read somewhere else on this forum that it's not possible to wire Fluence pickups out of phase with each other... Can someone confirm if this is true??